RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-urlreg-procedures-01.txt

Ian King <[email protected]> Tue, 26 May 1998 07:43:23 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.url
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I took it upon myself to create a 'personal' mailing list from the sign-up
sheet from the LA meeting, and mail directly to those people.  I did this
because for several months, no one has been saying anything on the list, but
at meetings -- POW!, everyone's got an opinion.  So, I decided to direct
these mailings to those people who had been in LA and who seemed to have
lots of suggestions.  

I can remove you from that list if you prefer, Stef.  But may I have your
suggestions/feedback on the group's work?  :-)  

Cheers -- Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Einar Stefferud [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 10:30 AM
To: Ian King
Cc: Yaron Goland; Leslie Daigle; ietf-url
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-urlreg-procedures-01.txt 


Hello Ian --

Why is this discussion suddenly being broadcast to individual
addresses instead of the <[email protected]> mailing list, 
where it belongs?

I note that mail addressed to ietf-url <[email protected]> does not
seem to arrive at <[email protected]>.

Best...\Stef

>From your message Thu, 21 May 1998 14:36:26 -0700:
}
}Oh good, I thought I had zoned in LA or something (must be the smog). I
}thought it was really weird that the new draft didn't have NOREG. So I
}assume NOREG is going to be put back into the draft?
}
}		Yaron
}
}-----Original Message-----
}From: Ian King 
}Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 1:58 PM
}To: 'Leslie Daigle'
}Cc: Yaron Goland; '[email protected]'; Alec Dun (Exchange);
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}Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-urlreg-procedures-01.txt 
}
}
}Thanks, Leslie,I may be confusing recollections of LA and Washington -- I
}appreciate the clarification.  
}
}-----Original Message-----
}From: Leslie Daigle [mailto:[email protected]]
}Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 1:53 PM
}To: Ian King
}Cc: Yaron Goland; '[email protected]'; Alec Dun (Exchange);
}[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
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}[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
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}Dusseault (Exchange); [email protected]; [email protected];
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}Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-urlreg-procedures-01.txt 
}
}
}On Thu, 21 May 1998, Ian King wrote:
}> I seem to recall that there was considerable discussion about vnd, and
the
}> consensus was that it was redundant or actually undesirable.  Does anyone
}> else want to speak up in favor of vnd?  
}
}I may have fallen off the thread somewhere, but I rather understood the
}opposite -- that vnd was agreed on as a necessary categorization.
}
}From the (unedited) minutes from the ietf.org proceedings for LA:
}
}"Create three classifications of scheme names:  Standard, vendor (start
with
}
} (vnd."), and private (a.k.a. the NOREG scheme).  Mimic the MIME
}registration 
} procedures outlined in RFC 2048.
}
} Standard scheme names will require an RFC that documents them and change 
} control for the scheme belongs to the IESG.
}
} Vendor scheme names require a registration form to be completed but RFCs
}are 
} encouraged.  Change control of the scheme belongs to the vendor.
}
} Private scheme names do not even require registration."
}
}As I read it, vnd and NOREG are not the same thing.
}
}I think this was the breakdown that was agreed upon in LA, and it still
}seems
}like the most viable path.
}
}
}Leslie.
}
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