[urn] third-party registrations

Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> Thu, 2 Apr 2026 17:13:49 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.urn
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 4/2/26 6:29 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> On 4/1/26 8:22 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote:

>> Thus my current position is that we, the URN NID committee, should
>> consider that registrations by third-party organizations are suspect
>> *unless* a WG has discussed the matter and reached consensus that such
>> non-coordinated incorporations are OK.
> 
> If I understand your statement correctly, I am not sure this is quite 
> the correct conclusion to draw from this kerfuffle...

Here are my further thoughts.

1. Dale, I'd like to understand your reasoning behind saying that a WG 
could reach consensus that non-coordinated incorporation is OK. Are you 
suggesting that a future URN WG could make a policy decision along the 
lines of what you propose and update RFC 8141 accordingly? Or are you 
suggesting that some other kind of working group (such as the SPICE WG) 
could make such a decision as long as it receives IETF consensus?

2. This is all hypothetical because there are no plans for a new URN WG 
or its equivalent, but if we ever "discuss the matter" then I think we 
would need to put serious guardrails in place to ensure that the power 
to complete third-party registrations could not be abused. It might be 
difficult to craft such rules.

3. Personally I see no rationale for third-party registrations. If 
someone can provide a strong argument for them, then let's discuss.

Peter

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