[urn] Re: Request for Registration of CTS namespace
[email protected] Mon, 15 Jun 2026 06:16:12 +0000
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--===============0463832253429465870== Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body>That is heloful to know as it sets a clear goal=2E<br><br>Do yo= u think IANA could provide a repo that maps data namespaces to server URLs?= <br><br>I use such a (private) repo to direct the programming APIs to the s= ervers=2E The idea was to host that repo at the academy instead=2E<br><br>I= f IANA registers data namespaces, it might be a good idea to have the core = repo located at IANA(?) and allow users to clone that(?)<br><br>(Technicall= y it is a trivial key-value mapping)<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"signature= ">--<br>Gesendet mit der GMX Mail App</div><div class=3D"mail_android_quote= " style=3D"line-height: 1"><br><meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Dd= evice-width"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/vnd=2Eui=2Ei= nsecure+html;charset=3Dutf-8"><div class=3D"mail_android_quote" style=3D"li= ne-height: 1"><br>Am 13=2E06=2E26, 04:46 schrieb "Dale R=2E Worley" <wor= ley@<a href=3D"http://ariadne=2Ecom">ariadne=2Ecom</a>>:<blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0=2E8ex 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1p= x solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> tiepilab=3D<a href=3D"http= ://40gmx=2Ede">40gmx=2Ede</a>@<a href=3D"http://dmarc=2Eietf=2Eorg">dmarc= =2Eietf=2Eorg</a> writes:<br> > I don't have a a full list=2E The namespaces that are connected to my= <br> > project are listed at <a href=3D"https://urncts=2Eeu">https://urncts= =2Eeu</a>=2E<br> <br> That page lists 19 data namespaces, which shows that there is<br> significant user support for CTS=2E<br> <br> > The registration process will be an interesting topic to discuss=2E I= <br> > understand your comment in a way that leads to a central authority=2E= <br> > My abstract idea is an open registration, hosted *somewhere* that<br> > works purely on FCFS without an authority that decides who may or may= <br> > not register a new namespace as long as it does not collide=2E With t= he<br> > option to choose your registry similiar to how you can choose your DN= S<br> > provider=2E Choosing your registry would also limit the harm that cou= ld<br> > arise from misuse=2E<br> <br> We definitely need a registration system in order to ensure URN<br> uniqueness, which is a requirement of URN registration -- organizations<br= > need to know what possible URNs they are allowed to create=2E If we get<b= r> an IANA registry established under "FCFS" policy, then there is no<br> restriction regarding who may register which new data namespace=2E Also,<= br> registration with IANA would implicitly put each data namespace owner on<b= r> notice that they had to adhere to the registered CTS syntax=2E<br> <br> And I do see it as a problem that we need to ensure the users of CTS<br> conform to the proper syntax=2E<br> <br> It would be straightforward to establish an IANA registry=2E It would<br> take a great deal of work to establish a system with multiple<br> registrars=2E And it might not be possible to recruit multiple<br> registrars, whereas the IESG can direct IANA to operate a registry=2E<br> <br> In regard to trusting IANA to carry out its duties correctly =2E=2E=2E If = IANA<br> doesn't function well, the Internet has many more problems than just<br> CTS=2E<br> <br> Although if you see a way to do decentralized allocation of data<br> namespaces, I would like to see the details=2E<br> <br> > Another issue with a central registry might come from the domain=2E I= t<br> > seems that the need to register namespaces is not very strong in the<= br> > humanities :) =2E The problem with unregistered URNs would escalate<b= r> > further if new data sets appear without registration=2E A decentralis= ed<br> > registry would eliminate this problem because then it is the users<br= > > responsibility=2E<br> <br> I don't think there is anything we can do about people creating CTS URNs<b= r> without proper registration, all we can do is create clear rules that<br> allow us to say that they are nonconforming=2E<br> <br> > And finally I don't see, how a central registry could prevent<br> > "namespace brokers" from registering and selling namespaces to<br> > academic institutions=2E In a decentralised registry, this business<b= r> > model cannot appear=2E<br> <br> I think the situation is similar to domain names, in that there are many<b= r> alternative forms of the name of an institution or project, and it is<br> unlikely that brokers will have speculatively registered all of them=2E<br= > <br> Dale<br> </blockquote></div></div></body></html> --===============0463832253429465870== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KdXJuIG1haWxp bmcgbGlzdCAtLSB1cm5AaWV0Zi5vcmcKVG8gdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgc2VuZCBhbiBlbWFpbCB0byB1 cm4tbGVhdmVAaWV0Zi5vcmcK --===============0463832253429465870==--