Re: [v6ops] [IPv6] Why folks are blocking IPv6 extension headers? (Episode 1000 and counting) (Linux DoS)

Nick Buraglio <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.opsec,gmane.ietf.v6ops
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Is there any document that details the current operational best practices
or explains the EH options and use cases in a succinct document? I didn't
find one (although I did not look terribly hard). If not, that sounds like
an opportunity to work through them and create one, perhaps?
Nalani has a deep dive study here
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-elkins-v6ops-eh-deepdive-fw-01.html
and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-elkins-v6ops-eh-deepdive-cdn/
but I wasn't able to find a list with some use cases akin to the ND
considerations draft here
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nd-considerations/
RFC7045 has a decent, and RFC2460 explains what they are but neither really
have use cases.

nb

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 9:33 AM Tom Herbert <tom=
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:24 AM Andrew Campling
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if part of the issue here is that insufficient attention is
> being given to operational security matters and too much weight is given to
> privacy in protocol development, irrespective of the security implications
> (which is of course ultimately detrimental to security anyway)?
>
> Andrew,
>
> There is work being done to address the protocol "bugs" of extension
> headers. See 6man-hbh-processing and 6man-eh-limits for instance.
>
> Tom
>
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > From: OPSEC <[email protected]> on behalf of Fernando Gont <
> [email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 2:19 pm
> > To: David Farmer <[email protected]>; Tom Herbert <tom=
> [email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; V6 Ops List <[email protected]>; opsec
> WG <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [IPv6] Why folks are blocking IPv6 extension
> headers? (Episode 1000 and counting) (Linux DoS)
> >
> > Hi, David,
> >
> > On 18/5/23 02:14, David Farmer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 13:57 Tom Herbert
> > > <[email protected]
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > Maximum security is rarely the objective, I by no means have maximum
> > > security at my home. However, I don’t live in the country where some
> > > people still don’t even lock there doors. I live in a a city, I have
> > > decent deadbolt locks and I use them.
> > >
> > [....]
> > >
> > > So, I’m not really happy with the all or nothing approach the two of
> you
> > > seem to be offering for IPv6 extension headers, is there something in
> > > between? If not, then maybe that is what we need to be working towards.
> >
> > FWIW, I[m not arguing for a blank "block all", but rather "just allow
> > the ones you really need" -- which is a no brainer. The list you need
> > is, maybe Frag and, say, IPsec at the global level? (from the pov of
> > most orgs).
> >
> > (yeah... HbH and the like are mostly fine for the local link (e.g. MLD).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Fernando Gont
> > SI6 Networks
> > e-mail: [email protected]
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