[DNSOP] Re: Updates to Locally Served DNS Zones and IP Speci al-Purpose Address Space Registries
Tim Wicinski <[email protected]> Thu, 21 May 2026 11:03:16 -0400
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--===============2412728135270463901== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fa0ca8065255367e" --000000000000fa0ca8065255367e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Med Sorry I missed this - I pushed an update earlier this week with some changes to get all the references in there. Next steps should be some reviews - there are a couple of sections on "Initial Registry" that I am not sure if we should point to what exists or duplicate them. Operational Considerations I can work on tim On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:01=E2=80=AFAM <[email protected]> wrote= : > Hi Tim, all, > > > > Thank you for publishing a new version: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis/01/. In your > opinion, what would be the next step to make some progress here? > > > > Adding 6man and DNSOP as this touches registries defined by these WGs. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > *De :* Nick Buraglio <[email protected]> > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* mercredi 25 f=C3=A9vrier 2026 17:25 > *=C3=80 :* Tim Wicinski <[email protected]> > *Cc :* BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[email protected]>; list < > [email protected]> > *Objet :* Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt > > > > > > Hi Tim. We were discussing this as part of the v6ops AD call prior to IET= F > 125 - is there any movement on this draft? What can we help with? > > > > nb > > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 12:48=E2=80=AFPM Tim Wicinski <[email protected]>= wrote: > > Med > > > > Thanks for the suggestions ! I wanted to get something in place and I > poked Mr Farmer hoping for his insights. > > > > And I realized after I published the version it's not a -bis also. > > > > I'll clean this up today/tomorrow. > > > > tim > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 7:53=E2=80=AFAM <[email protected]> wro= te: > > Hi Tim, > > > > Thank you for editing the -00. > > > > I think that the doc should also update RFC6890 per the discussion we had > with David. The update to 6890 is about adding a new column to indicate > whether an entry in the registry is eligible to being listed in locally > served zones. The expert of the locally served zones registry will also > have the responsibility to validate reverse entries that will be mirrored > from the special registry. > > > > Linking both registries will ensure consistency between the two, with the > special address registry being the main entry point. > > > > One minor nit, I suspect that the =E2=80=9C-bis=E2=80=9D in the file name= may be > misleading for some as this is not a bis, but an update. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > *De :* Tim Wicinski <[email protected]> > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* mardi 2 d=C3=A9cembre 2025 20:23 > *=C3=80 :* list <[email protected]> > *Objet :* [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for > draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Per discussions with Med and Dave Farmer, I submitted a rough draft to > sketch out the changes for 6303. > > Need to work on the Guidance for Expert Reviewers, but wanted to make a > start of things. > > > > Feedback Welcome! > > > > tim > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 2:21=E2=80=AFPM > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt > To: Tim Wicinski <[email protected]> > > > > A new version of Internet-Draft draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt has been > successfully submitted by Tim Wicinski and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis > Revision: 00 > Title: Revision to Locally Served DNS Zones Registry > Date: 2025-12-02 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 4 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis/ > HTML: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.html > HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis > > > Abstract: > > RFC 6063, "Locally Served DNS Zones", defines two IANA registries > called "IPv4 Locally-Served DNS Zone Registry" and "IPv6 Locally- > Served DNS Zone Registry". This document changes the registration > procedure for that registry from "IETF Review" to "Expert Review". > This document updates RFC 6063. > > _________________________________________________________________________= ___________________________________ > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confid= entielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez re= cu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages = electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme o= u falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged i= nformation that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and de= lete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have bee= n modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > > --000000000000fa0ca8065255367e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">Med</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><b= r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Sorry = I missed this - I pushed an update earlier this week with some changes to g= et all the references in there.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty= le=3D"font-family:monospace">Next steps should be some reviews - there are = a couple of sections on "Initial=C2=A0Registry" that I am not sur= e if we should point to what exists or duplicate them.=C2=A0 Operational Co= nsiderations I can work=C2=A0on</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"= font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font= -family:monospace">tim</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_con= tainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 4:01= =E2=80=AFAM <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mohamed.bou= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"= style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p= adding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-7860375596809457609"> <div lang=3D"FR" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"> <div class=3D"m_-7860375596809457609WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cour= ier New"">Hi Tim, all,<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cour= ier New""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Thank you for publishing a new version: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis/01/" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis/01= /</a>. In your opinion, what would be the next step to make some progress h= ere?<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Adding 6man and DNSOP as this touches registr= ies defined by these WGs.<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Med<u></u><u></u></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> <div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none non= e none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue;paddi= ng:0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt"> <div> <div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b= order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"= > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri= ,sans-serif">De=C2=A0:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:= Calibri,sans-serif"> Nick Buraglio <<a href=3D"mailto:buraglio@forwardin= gplane.net" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> <br> <b>Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0:</b> mercredi 25 f=C3=A9vrier 2026 17:25<br> <b>=C3=80=C2=A0:</b> Tim Wicinski <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Cc=C2=A0:</b> BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <<a href=3D"mailto:mohamed.= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>= ;; list <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">v6ops@ietf.= org</a>><br> <b>Objet=C2=A0:</b> Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft= -dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p= > <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Tim. We were discussing this as part of the v6ops= AD call prior to IETF 125 - is there any movement on this draft? What can = we help with?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">nb<u></u><u></u></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 12:48<span style=3D"font-fami= ly:Arial,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM Tim Wicinski <<a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<u><= /u><u></u></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non= e none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(2= 04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Med<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= <u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Thanks for the suggestions ! I wanted to get something in place and I poked= Mr Farmer hoping for his insights.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= <u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= And I realized after I published the version=C2=A0it's not a -bis also.= =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= <u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= I'll clean this up today/tomorrow.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= <u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= tim<u></u><u></u></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= <u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 7:53<span style=3D"font-famil= y:Arial,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM <<a href=3D"mailto:mohamed.boucad= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrot= e:<u></u><u></u></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non= e none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(2= 04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cour= ier New"">Hi Tim,</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Cour= ier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Thank you for editing the -00.</span><u></u><= u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">I think that the doc should also update RFC68= 90 per the discussion we had with David. The update to 6890 is about adding a new column to indicate whether an entry in the registry is = eligible to being listed in locally served zones. The expert of the locally= served zones registry will also have the responsibility to validate revers= e entries that will be mirrored from the special registry. </span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Linking both registries will ensure consisten= cy between the two, with the special address registry being the main entry point.</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">One minor nit, I suspect that the =E2=80=9C-b= is=E2=80=9D in the file name may be misleading for some as this is not a bi= s, but an update. </span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Cheers,</span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">Med </span><u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa= mily:"Courier New"">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> <div style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none non= e none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor blue;paddi= ng:0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt"> <div> <div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b= order-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"= > <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri= ,sans-serif">De=C2=A0:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:= Calibri,sans-serif"> Tim Wicinski <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> <br> <b>Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0:</b> mardi 2 d=C3=A9cembre 2025 20:23<br> <b>=C3=80=C2=A0:</b> list <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Objet=C2=A0:</b> [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dnsop-r= fc6303-bis-00.txt</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p= > <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= =C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Hi</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= =C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Per discussions with=C2=A0Med and Dave Farmer, I submitted a rough draft to= sketch out the changes for 6303.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Need to work on the Guidance for Expert Reviewers,=C2=A0but wanted to make = a start of things.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= =C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= Feedback=C2=A0Welcome!</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= =C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Courier New"">= tim</span><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br> From: <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">int= [email protected]</a>><br> Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 2:21<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">= =E2=80=AF</span>PM<br> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt<br> To: Tim Wicinski <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a>><u></u><u></u></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;margin-left:33.6pt"> <br> <br> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt has been<br> successfully submitted by Tim Wicinski and posted to the<br> IETF repository.<br> <br> Name:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis<br> Revision: 00<br> Title:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Revision to Locally Served DNS Zones Registry<br> Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02025-12-02<br> Group:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Submission<br> Pages:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 4<br> URL:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-d= nsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt" target=3D"_blank"> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.txt</a><br> Status:=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop= -rfc6303-bis/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dns= op-rfc6303-bis/</a><br> HTML:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-d= nsop-rfc6303-bis-00.html" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id= /draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis-00.html</a><br> HTMLized: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dnsop-rfc6= 303-bis" target=3D"_blank"> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dnsop-rfc6303-bis</a><br> <br> <br> Abstract:<br> <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 6063, "Locally Served DNS Zones", defines two IA= NA registries<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0called "IPv4 Locally-Served DNS Zone Registry" and &= quot;IPv6 Locally-<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Served DNS Zone Registry".=C2=A0 This document changes th= e registration<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0procedure for that registry from "IETF Review" to &q= uot;Expert Review".<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0This document updates RFC 6063.<br> <br> <u></u><u></u></p> </div> </div> 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