[Witarea] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: How to make an elegant IPv4 outage
Daryll Swer <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jun 2026 04:46:57 +0530
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--===============8090880319985357451== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003c97670654028f05" --0000000000003c97670654028f05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The situation is worse with residential ISP services. Dynamic single-only /64 that changes on every DHCPv6 renew/release or PPPoE reconnect or you trip on your Ethernet cable for 1000ms and boom, new prefix. I'm currently stuck with such an ISP right now. -- Sent from my iPhone On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 at 1:35=E2=80=AFAM, Franck Martin <[email protected]= rg> wrote: > yes, some people indicated they use ULA and NAT66 to their dynamic IPv6 > address so they don't have to renumber when they change providers. sigh! > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Phillip Hallam-Baker" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Franck Martin" <[email protected]> > *Cc: *"Philipp Tiesel" <[email protected]>, "Nick Buraglio" < > [email protected]>, "Xipengxiao" <xipengxiao=3D > [email protected]>, "S Moonesamy" <[email protected]>, > "witarea" <[email protected]>, "ietf" <[email protected]>, "v6ops" < > [email protected]> > *Sent: *Thursday, June 11, 2026 1:01:57 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Witarea] Re: [v6ops] How to make an elegant IPv4 outage > > Just got off the phone with a very large ISP after a failed attempt to ge= t > an IPv6 address. > > Turns out that I can have IPv6 but only dynamic and only if I am on > dynamic IPv4. I cannot get IPv6 for my service with static IPv4 addresses= . > > Seems to me that we are still a long way away from being able to shutter > IPv4 completely. > > What I have not yet tried but should is trying to use the IPv6 mapping of > my IPv4 addresses. > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > --0000000000003c97670654028f05 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">The situation is worse with residential ISP services. Dyn= amic single-only /64 that changes on every DHCPv6 renew/release or PPPoE re= connect or you trip on your Ethernet cable for 1000ms and boom, new prefix.= I'm currently stuck with such an ISP right now.</div><div dir=3D"auto"= ><br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartm= ail=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Sent from my iPhone</div></div></div><div><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D= "gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 at 1:35=E2=80=AFAM, Franck Martin <<a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:= <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8= ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style= =3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"= >yes, some people indicated they use ULA and NAT66 to their dynamic IPv6 ad= dress so they don't have to renumber when they change providers. sigh!<= br><br><hr id=3D"m_-7924368945130329902zwchr" style=3D"font-family:arial,he= lvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><= b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: </b>"Phillip = Hallam-Baker" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[email protected]= om</a>><br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">To: </b>&= quot;Franck Martin" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ= et=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">franck@peach= ymango.org</a>><br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">C= c: </b>"Philipp Tiesel" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">phils@in= -panik.de</a>>, "Nick Buraglio" <<a href=3D"mailto:buraglio= @forwardingplane.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic= a,sans-serif">[email protected]</a>>, "Xipengxiao" = <xipengxiao=3D<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">40huawei.com@dmarc.= ietf.org</a>>, "S Moonesamy" <<a href=3D"mailto:sm%2Bietf@e= landsys.com" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se= rif">[email protected]</a>>, "witarea" <<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,= sans-serif">[email protected]</a>>, "ietf" <<a href=3D"mailt= o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san= s-serif">[email protected]</a>>, "v6ops" <<a href=3D"mailto:v6o= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se= rif">[email protected]</a>><br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans= -serif">Sent: </b>Thursday, June 11, 2026 1:01:57 PM<br><b style=3D"font-fa= mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: </b>Re: [Witarea] Re: [v6ops] How= to make an elegant IPv4 outage<br></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"fon= t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br><d= iv style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir=3D"ltr" style= =3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class=3D"gmail_default" st= yle=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Just got off= the phone with a very large ISP after a failed attempt to get an IPv6 addr= ess.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family= :arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style= =3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Turns out that = I can have IPv6 but only dynamic and only if I am on dynamic IPv4. I cannot= get IPv6 for my service with static IPv4 addresses.</div><div class=3D"gma= il_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= "><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-fami= ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Seems to me that we are still a long way awa= y from being able to shutter IPv4 completely.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa= ult" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><= /div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:aria= l,helvetica,sans-serif">What I have not yet tried but should is trying to u= se the IPv6 mapping of my IPv4 addresses.</div></div><br></div></div></div>= _______________________________________________<br> v6ops mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">v= [email protected]</a><br> To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar= get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000003c97670654028f05-- --===============8090880319985357451== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline LS0gCldpdGFyZWEgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIHdpdGFyZWFAaWV0Zi5vcmcKVG8gdW5zdWJzY3Jp YmUgc2VuZCBhbiBlbWFpbCB0byB3aXRhcmVhLWxlYXZlQGlldGYub3JnCg== --===============8090880319985357451==--