[Witarea] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: How to make an elegant IPv4 outage

Daryll Swer <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jun 2026 04:46:57 +0530
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.tsv-area,gmane.ietf.general,gmane.ietf.v6ops
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The situation is worse with residential ISP services. Dynamic single-only
/64 that changes on every DHCPv6 renew/release or PPPoE reconnect or you
trip on your Ethernet cable for 1000ms and boom, new prefix. I'm currently
stuck with such an ISP right now.

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On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 at 1:35=E2=80=AFAM, Franck Martin <[email protected]=
rg>
wrote:

> yes, some people indicated they use ULA and NAT66 to their dynamic IPv6
> address so they don't have to renumber when they change providers. sigh!
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Phillip Hallam-Baker" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"Franck Martin" <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *"Philipp Tiesel" <[email protected]>, "Nick Buraglio" <
> [email protected]>, "Xipengxiao" <xipengxiao=3D
> [email protected]>, "S Moonesamy" <[email protected]>,
> "witarea" <[email protected]>, "ietf" <[email protected]>, "v6ops" <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 11, 2026 1:01:57 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Witarea] Re: [v6ops] How to make an elegant IPv4 outage
>
> Just got off the phone with a very large ISP after a failed attempt to ge=
t
> an IPv6 address.
>
> Turns out that I can have IPv6 but only dynamic and only if I am on
> dynamic IPv4. I cannot get IPv6 for my service with static IPv4 addresses=
.
>
> Seems to me that we are still a long way away from being able to shutter
> IPv4 completely.
>
> What I have not yet tried but should is trying to use the IPv6 mapping of
> my IPv4 addresses.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">The situation is worse with residential ISP services. Dyn=
amic single-only /64 that changes on every DHCPv6 renew/release or PPPoE re=
connect or you trip on your Ethernet cable for 1000ms and boom, new prefix.=
 I&#39;m currently stuck with such an ISP right now.</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartm=
ail=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Sent from my iPhone</div></div></div><div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 at 1:35=E2=80=AFAM, Franck Martin &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"=
>yes, some people indicated they use ULA and NAT66 to their dynamic IPv6 ad=
dress so they don&#39;t have to renumber when they change providers. sigh!<=
br><br><hr id=3D"m_-7924368945130329902zwchr" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><=
b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: </b>&quot;Phillip =
Hallam-Baker&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[email protected]=
om</a>&gt;<br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">To: </b>&=
quot;Franck Martin&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">franck@peach=
ymango.org</a>&gt;<br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">C=
c: </b>&quot;Philipp Tiesel&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">phils@in=
-panik.de</a>&gt;, &quot;Nick Buraglio&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buraglio=
@forwardingplane.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif">[email protected]</a>&gt;, &quot;Xipengxiao&quot; =
&lt;xipengxiao=3D<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_=
blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">40huawei.com@dmarc.=
ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;S Moonesamy&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sm%2Bietf@e=
landsys.com" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif">[email protected]</a>&gt;, &quot;witarea&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif">[email protected]</a>&gt;, &quot;ietf&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif">[email protected]</a>&gt;, &quot;v6ops&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:v6o=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br><b style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif">Sent: </b>Thursday, June 11, 2026 1:01:57 PM<br><b style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: </b>Re: [Witarea] Re: [v6ops] How=
 to make an elegant IPv4 outage<br></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Just got off=
 the phone with a very large ISP after a failed attempt to get an IPv6 addr=
ess.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Turns out that =
I can have IPv6 but only dynamic and only if I am on dynamic IPv4. I cannot=
 get IPv6 for my service with static IPv4 addresses.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Seems to me that we are still a long way awa=
y from being able to shutter IPv4 completely.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif">What I have not yet tried but should is trying to u=
se the IPv6 mapping of my IPv4 addresses.</div></div><br></div></div></div>=
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