Re: [v6ops] Re: [Witarea] Re: How to make an elegant IPv4 outage

Tim Chown <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jun 2026 10:04:50 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.general,gmane.ietf.tsv-area,gmane.ietf.v6ops
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Well, that=92s 6man, this is v6ops.  If bad operational procedures are foll=
owed, we should highlight those with pointers to the good.  Doesn=92t have =
to name names I suppose.

On 12/06/2026, 10:48, "Ole Tr=F8an" <[email protected]> wrote:


Perhaps we need to start draft-v6ops-ipv6-dinosaurs and start to name and s=
hame such organisations and what they=92re doing wrong=85 polite but object=
ive critique and pointers in the doc to best practice.

It may produce a better outcome if we instead focus on fixing the gaps in i=
pv6.

Ole



On 11/06/2026, 21:03, "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <[email protected]> wrote:

Just got off the phone with a very large ISP after a failed attempt to get =
an IPv6 address.

Turns out that I can have IPv6 but only dynamic and only if I am on dynamic=
 IPv4. I cannot get IPv6 for my service with static IPv4 addresses.

Seems to me that we are still a long way away from being able to shutter IP=
v4 completely.

What I have not yet tried but should is trying to use the IPv6 mapping of m=
y IPv4 addresses.
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