Re: vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3
"Anurag Kothari (ankothar)" <[email protected]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:55:47 +0000
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Yes that is correct. The intention is to be able to switch the traffic to the backup router (with minimal traffic interruption) when preemption is not configured on the backup router without shutting down the interface or VRRP on Master. Thanks ~Anurag -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thirumavalavan Periyannan Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:56 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VRRP] vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3 Hi Anurag, You meant to say that when we do graceful failover on VRRP Master then traffic needs switch to VRRP backup router without waiting for Master_Down_Interval time. Please correct me if I am wrong. Sent from my iPhone On 22-Feb-2013, at 5:11 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > If you have received this digest without all the individual message > attachments you will need to update your digest options in your list > subscription. 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Re: Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] > (Anurag Kothari (ankothar)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:55:35 +0530 > From: sreenatha <[email protected]> > To: "Anurag Kothari (ankothar)" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Hi Anurag, > Your proposal is: > > - If a Maintenance event is received, then: > > + Cancel the Adver_Timer > > + Send an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 > > -endif // maintenance recv > > > And you mentioned that router need to send regular ADVERTISEMENT message till it receives the ADVERTISEMENT message from the backup router. > > "2. How much time Master router should wait to receive ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup router? > > [Anurag] Master doesn't have to wait. After receiving the maintenance event it will send regular ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 till some other router send back an ADVERTISEMENT message at which point it will transition to Backup." > > If Advert_Timer is cancelled, how regular ADVERTISEMENT messages are sent? > > So i am suggesting slight changes in the Proposal: > > - If a Maintenance event is received, then: > > + Change the router priority to 0 > > + Send an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 > > + Reset the Adver_Timer > > -endif // maintenance recv > > This will ensure that: > 1. ADVERTISEMENT message with priority 0 is sent immediately on receiving Maintenance event. > 2. Master router will send regular Advertisement message till it receives the ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup routers. > > Thanks, > Sreenatha Setty > > > > > On 02/21/2013 10:12 PM, Anurag Kothari (ankothar) wrote: >> Hi Sreenatha >> >> This ideas is based on the way the priority is defined in Section 5.2.4. and 6.1. of RFC-5798. >> >> " >> The priority value zero (0) has special meaning, indicating that the >> current Master has stopped participating in VRRP. This is used to >> trigger Backup routers to quickly transition to Master without having >> to wait for the current Master to time out. >> " >> >> " >> Priority <snip> The value of 0 (zero) is >> reserved for the Master router to >> indicate it is releasing responsibility >> for the virtual router. The range 1-254 >> (decimal) is available for VRRP routers >> backing up the virtual router. <snip> >> " >> >> Please see my responses inline [Anurag]: >> >> Thanks >> -Anurag >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of sreenatha >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:03 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP >> [RFC-5798] >> >> Hi Anurag, >> Proposed idea is good. I have some queries on this proposal: >> >> 1. On receiving new maintenance_event, priority of the router is not changed, right? So if back-up router has less priority, even if Master receives the ADVERTISEMENT from the backup router, Master will discard. >> So how the Master router state is going to change? >> >> [Anurag] On receiving the maintenance event the priority of router (or VRID) will change to 0. >> >> 2. How much time Master router should wait to receive ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup router? >> >> [Anurag] Master doesn't have to wait. After receiving the maintenance event it will send regular ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 till some other router send back an ADVERTISEMENT message at which point it will transition to Backup. >> >> 3. Standard VRRP MIB(RFC-2787) does not allow user to configure '0' for VRRP Priority. So you are proposing to change this value also? >> >> [Anurag] Yes. Priority 0 will have to be made a user configurable value to indicate the intention of a router to relinquish Master Status. >> >> Thanks, >> Sreenatha Setty >> >> On 02/21/2013 01:30 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> If you have received this digest without all the individual message >>> attachments you will need to update your digest options in your list >>> subscription. 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Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] >>> (Anurag Kothari (ankothar)) >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:08:41 +0000 >>> From: "Anurag Kothari (ankothar)"<[email protected]> >>> To:"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] >>> Message-ID: >>> <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I want to propose a new Maintenance Event (modification of Shutdown Event) for VRRP (RFC-5798] which would allow to gracefully failover the VRRP Master to Redundant (Backup Router). >>> >>> Problem Statement: >>> VRRP preemption is not configured on the redundant / backup router. >>> How to initiate VRRP Traffic to failover to the redundant / backup >>> router gracefully without modifying the configuration on the >>> redundant / backup router (i.e. adding preemption) >>> >>> Proposed Solution: >>> Addition to Section 6.4.3 of RFC-5798: >>> >>> - If a Maintenance event is received, then: >>> >>> + Cancel the Adver_Timer >>> >>> + Send an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 >>> >>> -endif // maintenance recv >>> >>> Unlike Shutdown event the router will not "Transition to the {Initialize} state" and continue to be Master and forward traffic till the backup router sends an ADVERTISEMENT (triggered by receiving an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0) and becomes master. >>> Here are couple of examples of how a maintenance event may be >>> triggered >>> >>> >>> 1) By some user command e.g. "maintenance-mode" in the vrrp configuration. >>> >>> 2) By setting the priority = 0 for a particular VRID. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Anurag >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> scrubbed... >>> URL:<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vrrp/attachments/20130219/ >>> 36 >>> a6571f/attachment.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> vrrp mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp >>> >>> >>> End of vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 1 >>> *********************************** >> Disclaimer : >> This email communication may contain privileged and confidential information and is intended for the use of the addressee only.If you are not an intended recipient you are requested not to reproduce, copy disseminate or in any manner distribute this email communication as the same is strictly prohibited. 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Email communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure & error free and IB Technology is not liable for any errors in the email communication or for the proper, timely and complete transmission thereof. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vrrp/attachments/20130222/a56c07 > 14/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:41:47 +0000 > From: "Anurag Kothari (ankothar)" <[email protected]> > To: sreenatha <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sreenatha > > My bad, by cancel I meant reset the timer. > > I would prefer defining maintenance event itself as (or being triggered by) priority being set to 0 for a VRID. So probably we can rephrase the proposal as: > > > - If a Maintenance event is received, then: > > > > + Send an ADVERTISEMENT > > > > + Reset the Adver_Timer to Advertisement_Interval > > > > -endif // maintenance recv > > Thanks > -Anurag > > From: sreenatha [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:26 PM > To: Anurag Kothari (ankothar) > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] > > Hi Anurag, > Your proposal is: > > > > - If a Maintenance event is received, then: > > > > + Cancel the Adver_Timer > > > > + Send an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 > > > > -endif // maintenance recv > > > > > > And you mentioned that router need to send regular ADVERTISEMENT message till it receives the ADVERTISEMENT message from the backup router. > > > > "2. How much time Master router should wait to receive ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup router? > > > > [Anurag] Master doesn't have to wait. After receiving the maintenance event it will send regular ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 till some other router send back an ADVERTISEMENT message at which point it will transition to Backup." > > > > If Advert_Timer is cancelled, how regular ADVERTISEMENT messages are sent? > > > > So i am suggesting slight changes in the Proposal: > > > > - If a Maintenance event is received, then: > > > > + Change the router priority to 0 > > > > + Send an ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 > > > > + Reset the Adver_Timer > > > > -endif // maintenance recv > > > > This will ensure that: > > 1. ADVERTISEMENT message with priority 0 is sent immediately on receiving Maintenance event. > > 2. Master router will send regular Advertisement message till it receives the ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup routers. > > > > Thanks, > > Sreenatha Setty > > > > > > > On 02/21/2013 10:12 PM, Anurag Kothari (ankothar) wrote: > > Hi Sreenatha > > > > This ideas is based on the way the priority is defined in Section 5.2.4. and 6.1. of RFC-5798. > > > > " > > The priority value zero (0) has special meaning, indicating that the > > current Master has stopped participating in VRRP. This is used to > > trigger Backup routers to quickly transition to Master without > having > > to wait for the current Master to time out. > > " > > > > " > > Priority <snip> The value of 0 (zero) is > > reserved for the Master router to > > indicate it is releasing responsibility > > for the virtual router. The range 1-254 > > (decimal) is available for VRRP routers > > backing up the virtual router. <snip> > > " > > > > Please see my responses inline [Anurag]: > > > > Thanks > > -Anurag > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sreenatha > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:03 AM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [VRRP] Proposal for Maintenance Event for VRRP [RFC-5798] > > > > Hi Anurag, > > Proposed idea is good. I have some queries on this proposal: > > > > 1. On receiving new maintenance_event, priority of the router is not changed, right? So if back-up router has less priority, even if Master receives the ADVERTISEMENT from the backup router, Master will discard. > > So how the Master router state is going to change? > > > > [Anurag] On receiving the maintenance event the priority of router (or VRID) will change to 0. > > > > 2. How much time Master router should wait to receive ADVERTISEMENT message from any backup router? > > > > [Anurag] Master doesn't have to wait. After receiving the maintenance event it will send regular ADVERTISEMENT with Priority = 0 till some other router send back an ADVERTISEMENT message at which point it will transition to Backup. > > > > 3. Standard VRRP MIB(RFC-2787) does not allow user to configure '0' for VRRP Priority. So you are proposing to change this value also? > > > > [Anurag] Yes. Priority 0 will have to be made a user configurable value to indicate the intention of a router to relinquish Master Status. > > > > Thanks, > > Sreenatha Setty > > > > On 02/21/2013 01:30 AM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > If you have received this digest without all the individual message > > attachments you will need to update your digest options in your list > > subscription. 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