Re: vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3

Thirumavalavan Periyannan <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:37:37 +0530
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Hi Anurag,



Sorry for the late response.



See the inline [Thiru]



Here, I have a question,



1.Do We have to configure priority Zero on Master router to do graceful fai=
lover?

Thanks & Regards,
Thirumavalavan Periyannan
Associate SQA Engineer  - VRRP Module Owner

[cid:[email protected]]


-----Original Message-----
From: Anurag Kothari (ankothar) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:57 AM
To: Thirumavalavan Periyannan; [email protected]
Cc: Peter Hunt
Subject: RE: [VRRP] vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3



Hi Thirumavalavan



Here are couple of points:



1) With something like "disable vrrp" or "shutdown vrrp" it will not be gra=
ceful as the router will treat it as a shutdown event (which is a break bef=
ore you make approach) and the router will "Transition to the {Initialize} =
state". The backup router will wait for "Skew_Time"[Thiru]I think, it's Mas=
ter_Down_interval time. before it becomes master; So we probably will have =
traffic loss for a period approximately equal to "Skew_Time"[Thiru]I think,=
 it's Master_Down_interval time. Even with Default configuration this will =
be close to 609 ms which would be a duration long enough for to impact time=
 sensitive applications (e.g. voice calls). For sure the actual failover ti=
me will depend upon the size of the Network and the switches in between but=
 with the method proposed below we can try to improve that time.



2) This will also improve convergence in scenarios where we want the failov=
er to trigger because of up uplink interface from the router going down (tr=
acking interface and decrementing the priority).



I am not sure if you saw the modified proposal which was sent out today ear=
ly morning. Here is the link to it in case you need it http://www.ietf.org/=
mail-archive/web/vrrp/current/msg01489.html



Thanks

~Anurag





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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E">Hi Anurag,<o:p></o:=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E">Sorry for the late =
response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E">See the inline [Thi=
ru]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E">Here, I have </span=
><span style=3D"color:black">a
</span><span style=3D"color:#17375E">question,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#17375E"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:black">1</span><span style=
=3D"color:#17375E">.Do We have to configure priority Zero on Master router =
to do graceful failover?</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank=
s &amp; Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Th=
irumavalavan Periyannan</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F=
497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Assoc=
iate SQA Engineer&nbsp; - VRRP Module Owner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Anurag Kothari (ankothar) [mailto:[email protected]] <br>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:57 AM<br>
To: Thirumavalavan Periyannan; [email protected]<br>
Cc: Peter Hunt<br>
Subject: RE: [VRRP] vrrp Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi Thirumavalavan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Here are couple of points:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1) With something like &quot;disable vrrp&quot; o=
r &quot;shutdown vrrp&quot; it will not be graceful as the router will trea=
t it as a shutdown event (which is a break before you make approach) and th=
e router will &quot;Transition to the {Initialize} state&quot;.
 The backup router will wait for &quot;Skew_Time&quot;<b><span style=3D"col=
or:red">[Thiru]I think, it&#8217;s Master_Down_interval time.</span></b> be=
fore it becomes master; So we probably will have traffic loss for a period =
approximately equal to &quot;Skew_Time&quot;<b><span style=3D"color:red">[T=
hiru]I
 think, it&#8217;s Master_Down_interval time</span></b>. Even with Default =
configuration this will be close to 609 ms which would be a duration long e=
nough for to impact time sensitive applications (e.g. voice calls). For sur=
e the actual failover time will depend
 upon the size of the Network and the switches in between but with the meth=
od proposed below we can try to improve that time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2) This will also improve convergence in scenario=
s where we want the failover to trigger because of up uplink interface from=
 the router going down (tracking interface and decrementing the priority).<=
o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I am not sure if you saw the modified proposal wh=
ich was sent out today early morning. Here is the link to it in case you ne=
ed it
<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vrrp/current/msg01489.html"=
><span style=3D"color:#0606BA;text-decoration:none">http://www.ietf.org/mai=
l-archive/web/vrrp/current/msg01489.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">~Anurag<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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