Re: Is Denial of Service a WEIRD Hot Topic? Or What!

I should mention one of the available tools is moderated lists.

Ray

On 18 Feb 2000, 614275 GIANTS wrote:

>  I'm sure a lot of designers out there are not familiar with some of the strange
> ideosynchracies (please correct the spelling?) of the REAL BUSINESS WORLD out there-BUT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT...in SAN FRANCISCO...at the CITY CLERKS's OFFICE
> which is where you register your DBA...."No NAME is ever turned away..." That is KORRECT! "We can not for reasons heretofor told because it would be big sleaze-ball 'mustachio-Pete' expose...tell you ''why' ANYONE can regoister the NAME of YOUR BUSINESS...on top of it already being registered! If you KNOEW NOTHING of LAW...common sence would tell you...it is wrong, little voice would 
> be saying these are big time Communist Nut Crooks! And such is the situation!
> The same 'morons' at the LIBRARY of CONGRESS and "INTERNIC" say that they do not know that it is ILLEGAL to register a 'DOT.COM' in the name of FORD MOTOR COMPANY, KELLOGGS, JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY, etc. Now in theis CITY it is BOTH 'legal' and EXPECTED of you to "VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN"..which once was a joke...is NOW A REALITY, just change your hat, go back in and use your 'other' 594 'names!' The freaks who run the City of FRISCO, no longer 'depend' STRICTLY
> on the "DECEASED" to swing votes...they done everything but move the PEOPLE's REPUBLIC of CHINA here enMasse, to 'vote'...and among the laws this City has,
> it is 'illegal' to check ID of suspicious people. It is 'illegal' to ask for ID
> of 'voters'...and so forth. If you think this is odd, MAYOR WILLIE BROWN is
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 February 2000, Ray Plzak wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: Is Denial of Service a WEIRD Hot Topic?
> > From: Ray Plzak <[email protected]>
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> > While this is certainly the topic d'jour, there are two ways to look at
> > how it can be addressed.  First, are putting up a tutorial type of
> > service?  If so then maybe what we do is point to the resources that are
> > already there such as the site that Paul Ferguson and Dan Senie have at
> > URL http://www.denialinfo.com/.  We don't want to reinvent the wheel.
> > Second, we can highlight IETF activity in this area, of which the message
> > below is a example of one part of the solution to the problem.  This has
> > some value in its timeliness, but does not point out all of the
> > discussions about this problem.  There are other RFCs and IDs that address
> > aspects of this as well.  They should be highlighted as well.  A keyword
> > search capability that would find these documents would certainly be
> > helpful here.  The effort here is obviously an upfront one to decide how
> > to set up the mechanism - perhaps a web crawler type tool that looks at
> > certain types of info at selected sites - RFCs, IDs, IETF mail list
> > archives, etc.  Food for thought.
> > 
> > Ray
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Burke Chris-CCB007 wrote:
> > 
> > > Any thoughts on whether this type of information is worth highlighting on
> > > the web site? Chris
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:The IESG [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent:Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:24 AM
> > > > Cc:RFC Editor; Internet Architecture Board
> > > > Subject:Protocol Action: Network Ingress Filtering: Defeating Denial
> > > > of Service Attacks which employ IP Source Address Spoofing to BCP
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The IESG has approved 'Network Ingress Filtering: Defeating Denial of
> > > > Service Attacks which employ IP Source Address Spoofing' <rfc2267> as a
> > > > Best Current Practice.
> > > > 
> > > > The IESG Contact Persons are Randy Bush and Bert Wijnen.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > Technical Summary
> > > >  
> > > >  This document describes recommended router configurations to reduce
> > > >  likelihood of attacks over the network.  It describes how an ISP customer
> > > >  aggregation router should be configured to prevent a customer from
> > > > sending
> > > >  packets with source addresses from space other than their own.
> > > > 
> > > > Working Group Summary
> > > > 
> > > >  This is not the product of a working group, but has been used in
> > > > practice,
> > > >  has passed general IETF last call twice, and is generally considered to
> > > > be
> > > >  good practice.
> > > > 
> > > > Protocol Quality
> > > > 
> > > >  This was reviewed for the IESG by Randy Bush.
> > > 
> 
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