Re: Re: Minutes from San Diego

Hello Shane,

On 19.01.01 12:06 Shane Kerr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote:
> 
> >
> >     I've come to the conclusion that this effort
> >     is being driven by the well-intentioned, but misplaced belief
> >     that whois:43 is only used for domain related purposes.
> >
> > Well, the discussion seems to circle around domain names, but that
> > was certainly not the intention. At the BOF was also discussion
> > about the use RIPE and friend make voor IP delegations, AS info
> > etc.
> >
> > I guess that the letter part is less visible for the public, only
> > network operators care about this. Maybe that's why the discussion
> > is dominated by the ``name'' crowd and not the ``number'' crowd.
> 
> I think the fact that there are only three RIR in operation today, and
> only two query/response formats, means that there's really not a big
> need for a more sophisticated Whois protocol for RIR managed data.
> 
> But I guess you can use Whois for domain names too.  :)
> 
> I wonder what kind of query load the various Whois servers get.  From
> the RIPE statistics page:
> 
> 
http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/mrtg/noofqueries/noofqueries.html
> 
> You can see we get between 400 and 500 queries per minute, around 7 or 8
> queries/second (or as I like to say, 7 or 8 Hz).
> 
> From the ARIN VI engineering status report they report over 13
> queries/sec in September 2000.
> 
> Can anyone running a domain Whois server report some load statistics
> here?

we have currently an avarage of 140 q/min and up to 400 max. That means we 
have an avarage of 2 - 6 Hz,

Regards Sabine

> 
> I know a lot of queries from both ARIN and RIPE are people doing data
> mining, and I suspect that this is true for all other Whois registries
> as well.  We may want to split any work on new and improved data
> distribution techniques into looking at ways for both single and
> aggregate lookups.
> 
> As a side note on LDAP, Microsoft reports the following:
> 
> "The specific load that a single LDAP server can manage will depend on
> several factors, including computer hardware (CPU, RAM, disk speed),
> resource contention with other processes on the computer, network,
> client application behavior and load, and underlying database
> performance. You can expect to get approximately 150 lookups/second, 75
> modifications/second, and 20 inserts/second on a P200 with 500 MB of RAM
> going to a well-tuned, off-box SQL Server 6.5 computer on similar
> hardware and a Membership Directory of approximately 500,000 objects."
> 
> That was from:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Sitesrv/Technote/memdirct.asp
> 
> I'm not (necessarily) an LDAP fan, but what this means to me is that for
> number registries at least, LDAP can probably meet the needs for
> information distribution technically.
> 
> And to think, we're just about to roll out a new Whois server!  :)
> 
> Shane
> 
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> 
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