[pkix] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5272 (8137 )

Sean Turner <[email protected]> Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:31:25 -0500
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Deb,

Since we are in the process of obsoleting RFC 5272 [1], I think we =
should mark this HFDU even though RFC 6402 fixed this.

spt

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5272bis/

> On Oct 29, 2024, at 1:51=E2=80=AFPM, Michael StJohns =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> And this is what I get for going backwards in my emails.   I think =
6402 fixed it properly - ignore my email.=20
>=20
> We *really* need a "Rejected - fixed in later RFC" or "Rejected OBE" =
status.
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> Mike
>=20
> On 10/29/2024 11:43 AM, Deb Cooley wrote:
>> obsoleted by RFC 6402?
>>=20
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 11:41=E2=80=AFAM Deb Cooley =
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> opinions?
>>>=20
>>> Deb
>>>=20
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 6:36=E2=80=AFAM RFC Errata System =
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5272,
>>>> "Certificate Management over CMS (CMC)".
>>>>=20
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> You may review the report below and at:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8137
>>>>=20
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Type: Technical
>>>> Reported by: David von Oheimb <[email protected] =
<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>=20
>>>> Section: C.1
>>>>=20
>>>> Original Text
>>>> -------------
>>>> NoSignatureValue contains the hash of the certification request.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Corrected Text
>>>> --------------
>>>> NoSignatureValue contains the SHA-1 hash value of the certification =
request.=20
>>>> The hash value given by NoSignatureValue SHOULD be ignored.
>>>>=20
>>>> Notes
>>>> -----
>>>> The hash value was not sufficiently defined because the choice of =
the hash algorithm was not specified.
>>>> At that time presumably the use of SHA-1 was implied.
>>>>=20
>>>> I suggest requiring SHA-1 here simply for backward compatibility.
>>>> >=46rom today's perspective more flexibility may be demanded and =
SHA-1 likely no more is the best choice.
>>>>=20
>>>> Anyway I see no real value in NoSignatureValue (pun intended), so =
it should not matter.
>>>> For this reason I propose ignoring the hash value.
>>>>=20
>>>> Instructions:
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>>>> will be removed shortly by the RFC Production Center.) Please
>>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
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>>>> will log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>>>>=20
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> RFC5272 (draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis-07)
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Title               : Certificate Management over CMS (CMC)
>>>> Publication Date    : June 2008
>>>> Author(s)           : J. Schaad, M. Myers
>>>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>>>> Source              : Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509)
>>>> Stream              : IETF
>>>> Verifying Party     : IESG
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after-white-space;">Deb,<div><br></div><div>Since we are in the process =
of obsoleting RFC 5272 [1], I think we should mark this HFDU even though =
RFC 6402 fixed =
this.</div><div><br></div><div>spt</div><div><br></div><div>[1]&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5272bis/">htt=
ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5272bis/</a><br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 29, 2024, at 1:51=E2=80=AFPM, Michael StJohns =
&lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">And this is what I get for going
      backwards in my emails.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think 6402 fixed it properly =
- ignore
      my email.&nbsp; <br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">We *really* need a "Rejected - fixed =
in
      later RFC" or "Rejected OBE" status.</div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Mike<br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/29/2024 11:43 AM, Deb Cooley
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:[email protected]=
.com">
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charset=3DUTF-8">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">obsoleted by RFC 6402?<br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at
          11:41=E2=80=AFAM Deb Cooley &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">
            <div>opinions?</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Deb<br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 =
at
              6:36=E2=80=AFAM RFC Errata System &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The
              following errata report has been submitted for =
RFC5272,<br>
              "Certificate Management over CMS (CMC)".<br>
              <br>
              --------------------------------------<br>
              You may review the report below and at:<br>
              <a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8137" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8137<=
/a><br>
              <br>
              --------------------------------------<br>
              Type: Technical<br>
              Reported by: David von Oheimb &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
              <br>
              Section: C.1<br>
              <br>
              Original Text<br>
              -------------<br>
              NoSignatureValue contains the hash of the certification
              request. <br>
              <br>
              Corrected Text<br>
              --------------<br>
              NoSignatureValue contains the SHA-1 hash value of the
              certification request. <br>
              The hash value given by NoSignatureValue SHOULD be
              ignored.<br>
              <br>
              Notes<br>
              -----<br>
              The hash value was not sufficiently defined because the
              choice of the hash algorithm was not specified.<br>
              At that time presumably the use of SHA-1 was implied.<br>
              <br>
              I suggest requiring SHA-1 here simply for backward
              compatibility.<br>
              &gt;=46rom today's perspective more flexibility may be
              demanded and SHA-1 likely no more is the best choice.<br>
              <br>
              Anyway I see no real value in NoSignatureValue (pun
              intended), so it should not matter.<br>
              For this reason I propose ignoring the hash value.<br>
              <br>
              Instructions:<br>
              -------------<br>
              This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". (If it is
              spam, it <br>
              will be removed shortly by the RFC Production Center.)
              Please<br>
              use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified
              or<br>
              rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying =
party&nbsp;
              <br>
              will log in to change the status and edit the report, if
              necessary.<br>
              <br>
              --------------------------------------<br>
              RFC5272 (draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis-07)<br>
              --------------------------------------<br>
              Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;: Certificate Management over CMS
              (CMC)<br>
              Publication Date&nbsp; &nbsp; : June 2008<br>
              Author(s)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: J. =
Schaad, M. Myers<br>
              Category&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
PROPOSED STANDARD<br>
              Source&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509)<br>
              Stream&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : =
IETF<br>
              Verifying Party&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: IESG<br>
            </blockquote>
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