[pkix] Re: Terminology check: "PKI consumer"

George Michaelson <[email protected]> Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:39:00 +1000
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I haven't seen this one but I also see this as very unfortunate and
colliding with aspects of what a relying party is, "consuming" pki products
to some specific purpose.

As a term of art I think this is a bad choice.

G

On Tue, 4 Feb 2025, 12:06 Stephen Wilson, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings PKIers.
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> I have come across an unfamiliar phrase in some new PKI tender
> documentation. It is related to the energy sector's IEEE 2030.5 standard
> for certain IoT device certificates.
>
> The phrase is "PKI consumer" which is taken to mean the entity to which a
> certificate is issued
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> I reckon "Subject" is the unambiguous term of art.
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> Does anyone else see "PKI consumer" being used in the marketplace, and
> what do you think?
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> Thanks for any feedback. Cheers,
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