Issue: PTR RR queries for 254.169.in-addr.arpa
Bernard Aboba <[email protected]> Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:06:12 -0800 (PST)
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Yet another issue has come up with respect to RFC 3927, which is still in 48 hours. Thomas Narten has brought up a concern relating to the handling of DNS PTR RR queries for 254.169.in-addr.arpa. The text of his email is enclosed at the end of this message. Here is the text I have proposed to add in order to address this issue: "Reverse (address-to-name) queries for IPv4 Link-Local addresses MUST NOT be sent to name servers for the global DNS. The recommended way to avoid sending such queries to nameservers for the global DNS is for recursive name server implementations to act as if they were authoritative for an empty 254.169.in-addr.arpa zone and return RCODE 3 for any such query. Implementations that choose this strategy should allow it to be overridden, but returning an RCODE 3 response for such queries should be the default, both because this will reduce the query load problem and also because, if the site administrator has not set up the reverse tree corresponding to IPv4 Link-Local addresses in use, returning RCODE 3 is in fact the correct answer." This is the text that Stuart has proposed: " Mapping from IPv4 addresses to host names is conventionally done by issuing DNS queries for names of the form, "x.x.x.x.in-addr.arpa." When used for link-local addresses, which have significance only on the local link, it is inappropriate to send such DNS queries beyond the local link. DNS clients MUST NOT send unicast DNS queries for any name that falls within the "254.169.in-addr.arpa." domain. DNS caching servers receiving queries from non-compliant clients for names within the "254.169.in-addr.arpa." domain MUST silently ignore them. A caching server MUST NOT attempt to complete such queries on behalf of the client, and MUST NOT send any DNS response back to the client." We would like participants in the former ZEROCONF WG to weigh in on this issue. Opinions? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:34:10 -0600 From: Thomas Narten <[email protected]> To: Bernard Aboba <[email protected]> Cc: RFC Editor <[email protected]>, Bernard Aboba <[email protected]>, Stuart Cheshire <[email protected]>, Margaret Wasserman <[email protected]>, Erik Guttman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: ADs - Re: authors 48 hours: RFC 3927 <draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-17.txt> NOW AVAILABLE RFC Editor; (other parties may want to sit down before reading further) Are we all seated? :-) Can we stop the presses on this document? One other issue has come up that I think we should address. The issue is analogous to the one being discussed on the IPv6 list under the subject heading: Subject: Proposed Changes to ULA DNS section (see below) I propose we craft similar text, circulate _very_ briefly on zeroconf, and then move on. Sorry, this document seems to continually take 1/2 more step towards the finish line, but we can't quite get there, and this is actually a very important issue... Thomas From: Margaret Wasserman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:18:41 -0500 Hi All, During IESG review, Mark Andrews raised a significant operational concern regarding the DNS section of the ULA document (draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-09.txt), and I am currently delaying approval of the document until the issue can be resolved. The concern, which is shared by other DNS experts, is that widespread use of these addresses could cause a significant, and pointless, load on servers in the ip6.arpa zone -- a problem that could be avoided by different recommendations in the DNS section of this document. The DNS directorate met on Sunday evening and came up with the attached wording (to replace the current DNS section in the ULA draft) that will address this concern. We will discuss this issue briefly at the IPv6 meeting this afternoon, but I wanted to make sure that you all have a copy of the text for consideration before the meeting (since it can't reasonably fit on a single slide). I'd also like to know if there are any objections to making this change to the ULA document. Margaret --- OLD: 4.4 DNS Issues At the present time AAAA and PTR records for locally assigned local IPv6 addresses are not recommended to be installed in the global DNS. The operational issues relating to this are beyond the scope of this document. For background on this recommendation, the concern about adding AAAA and PTR records to the global DNS for locally assigned Local IPv6 addresses stems from the lack of complete assurance that the prefixes are unique. There is a small possibility that the same PTR record might be registered by two different organizations. Due to this concern, adding AAAA records is thought to be unwise because matching PTR records can not be registered NEW: 4.4 DNS Issues At the present time AAAA and PTR records for locally assigned local IPv6 addresses are not recommended to be installed in the global DNS. For background on this recommendation, one of the concerns about adding AAAA and PTR records to the global DNS for locally assigned Local IPv6 addresses stems from the lack of complete assurance that the prefixes are unique. There is a small possibility that the same IPv6 Local addresses will be used by two different organizations both claiming to be authoritative with different contents. Due to this concern, adding AAAA records for these addresses to the global DNS is thought to be unwise. Reverse (address-to-name) queries for IPv6 Local addresses must not be sent to name servers for the global DNS, due to the load that such queries would create for the authoritative name servers for the ip6.arpa zone. This form of query load is not specific to Local IPv6 addresses; any current form of local addressing creates additional load of this kind, due to reverse queries leaking out of the site. However, since allowing such queries to escape from the site serves no useful purpose, there is no good reason to make the existing load problems worse. The recommended way to avoid sending such queries to nameservers for the global DNS is for recursive name server implementations to act as if they were authoritative for an empty c.f.ip6.arpa zone and return RCODE 3 for any such query. Implementations that choose this strategy should allow it to be overridden, but returning an RCODE 3 response for such queries should be the default, both because this will reduce the query load problem and also because, if the site administrator has not bothered to set up the reverse tree corresponding to the IPv6 Local addresses in use, returning RCODE 3 is in fact the correct answer. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [email protected] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------