Re: Data held by ISPs
"Charles Lindsey" <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:39:35 -0000
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:20:51 -0000, Roland Perry <[email protected]> wrote: > In article > <CAJ-LMZVwnWHR8oR=kHqQf1hcrdVNzB-V=1wWrUu4sd65rKU9Fw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>, > Mark Harrison <mark-vKXohMnnRSNkbu+0n/[email protected]> writes >> </snip> >> IP addresses (of the subscriber) are personal data. >> >> Although it's taken a long time for this to be nailed into law (rather >> than denied by the MRD brigade). >> </snip> >> >> I'm surprised. IP addresses from ISP's are shared. They are rarely >> given to end devices but rather routers that are also shared. How could >> they be classed as identifiable? To whom under the law? > > Some routers are shared, others aren't[1]. But what you've asked neatly > summarises the conceptual wrangle that's being going on. One camp says > that because some IP addresses are shared, then none of them ought to > qualify as Personal Data; the other camp says that if some of them > aren't shared, then all of them ought to be given the respect accorded > to Personal Data - especially when it's hard to tell which are which. For a router with a fixed IP address (like mine), that IP address identifies me (or the small number of people with accounts on my machine). For a leased IP, the combination of the IP and the time are equivalent to a fixed IP. Just needs the cooperation of the ISP to decode it. But I would expect the table of IP leased against time would be traffic data, and hence demandable by TPTB (but not by any random Tom, Dick or Harry, because the IP/time combination is surely Personal Data). Whether ISPs can be forced to retain this data for some specified period I don't know, but if such is not lawful at the moment, for sure it soon will be. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: [email protected] Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5