Draft IP-Bill enters wrap-up phase
Roland Perry <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:41:02 +0000
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Yesterday was the last oral evidence session (as far as I know) and the Committee now has just four weeks to write up its report. According to Teresa May in her evidence yesterday, the so called "end to end encryption" issue is in effect asking third parties [itself a term of art in these discussions] to produce plain text in the same way that RIPA currently asks telecoms providers to *when they apply the encryption themselves*. No government sponsored back doors/secret keys. But they *would* expect someone like Apple to deliver the plain text of a specific iMessage, if asked. Within an overall umbrella of 'reasonably practical'. In the specific case of Apple, that might be wishful thinking based on a mistaken impression that an iMessage has four ends: sender/Apple/Apple/recipient, or perhaps it's wishful thinking that Apple would co-operate in a targeted MiTM attack (some modalities of which are discussed here): <http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2015/09/lets-talk-about- imessage-again.html> The other new information which might be of particular interest to folk here is the position with so-called "Coffee shop networks" and of course academic networks. There was a bit of a fudge here, because no-one mentioned that large numbers of coffee shop networks are actually run by public operators like "The Cloud", which is a Sky subsidiary, and of course Sky is one of the big providers that the Home Office is presumably already talking to. (Ditto O2, BT, Virgin etc). On the assumption they actually meant genuinely privately run coffee shop networks, the answer was in effect that if a large enough bunch of criminals started using any particular network, or set up shop in a particular academic institution, then the Bill has to ensure that their activities could be monitored if required. In other words, no safe haven; not that all these places would be hooked up from day one. Moving on, and following SFS2016, there was a call for new catchphrases, I see Philip Virgo has suggested "Hoover Powers" for bulk data gathering, and my own offering is 192.gov for the bulk datasets. Teresa May would not give examples of bulk datasets for fear of tipping off criminals (or so she said). But did say that an 'obvious one' would be the list of people with a firearms licence. Not that all criminals with firearms are listed there, of course! The police already have that list (as is to be expected) within the "Names File" below - although missing from Wikipedia's entry - plus a few others as listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer#Databases Meanwhile, looking at the Home Office's recently published written evidence to the Joint Scrutiny Committee, I see they have a concept of "domain name", such that both news.bbc.co.uk and bbc.co.uk/news would be redacted to bbc.co.uk for the purposes of Internet Connection Records. But how would this work (eg) for the school I worked with until recently, whose url is www.wbs.eu.com; because of the arrangements surrounding eu.com (and a few similar ones) the "domain" could be interpreted as just eu.com -- Roland Perry