IPA s.56 (Exclusion of matters from legal proceedings etc.
"Ben Liddicott" <[email protected]> Tue, 6 Dec 2016 12:43:45 -0000
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The Register has an article up about this today:
The Investigatory Powers Act allows the State to tell lies in court
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/06/parallel_construction_lies_in_englis
h_courts/
"Section 56(1)(b) creates a legally guaranteed ability - nay, duty - to lie
about even the potential for State hacking to take place, and to tell juries
a wholly fictitious story about the true origins of hacked material used
against defendants in order to secure criminal convictions. This is
incredibly dangerous. Even if you know that the story being told in court is
false, you and your legal representatives are now banned from being able to
question those falsehoods and cast doubt upon the prosecution story."
Is this correct, or is it overstating the case? And if so by how much?
If your defence is literally that the evidence was fabricated by the
security services, how could you proceed?
(This is certainly something that could happen. Further it's a trope in
popular culture that the security services will plant evidence of crimes to
discredit people. For example in Sherlock, Mycroft threatens to plant
illegal images to coerce either Watson or Sherlock Holmes to cooperate. So
the jury are likely to believe this is possible, even if unlikely. It is not
necessarily something which would be automatically disbelieved.)
Cheers, Ben
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class=3DMsoNormal>The Register has an article up about this =
today:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Investigatory Powers Act allows the State to tell =
lies in court<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/06/parallel_construction_lie=
s_in_english_courts/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/06/parallel_co=
nstruction_lies_in_english_courts/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>“Section 56(1)(b) creates a legally guaranteed =
ability – nay, duty – to lie about even the potential for =
State hacking to take place, and to tell juries a wholly fictitious =
story about the true origins of hacked material used against defendants =
in order to secure criminal convictions. This is incredibly dangerous. =
Even if you know that the story being told in court is false, you and =
your legal representatives are now banned from being able to question =
those falsehoods and cast doubt upon the prosecution =
story.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Is this correct, or is it overstating the case? And if =
so by how much?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If your =
defence is literally that the evidence was fabricated by the security =
services, how could you proceed?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>(This is =
certainly something that could happen. Further it’s a trope in =
popular culture that the security services will plant evidence of crimes =
to discredit people. For example in Sherlock, Mycroft threatens to plant =
illegal images to coerce either Watson or Sherlock Holmes to cooperate. =
So the jury are likely to believe this is possible, even if unlikely. It =
is not necessarily something which would be automatically =
disbelieved.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers, =
Ben<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>
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