Re: UK Copyright,, ripping CDs, iPOD owning MPs?

"miriam clinton (iriXx)" <iriXx-i/[email protected]> Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:24:21 +1100
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... looks like this is material for a press release? its getting a bit 
ridiculous here...

especially as, in the UK, I would not be able to own, let alone play my 
(safely in storage) collection of still-in-copyright but impossible to 
obtain tapes of folk music LPs from the former USSR in the UK. I would 
also stress that I now live in a country where personal copying is 
permissible.

I paid a blank media tax in Holland to be able to copy these recordings 
from various libraries and from friends. My collection is extremely 
rare, and possibly may be the only collection of such music, as the LPs 
are under threat of decay; indeed, my own collection would be under 
threat of decay as it is on ordinary cassette tape and dates from the 
early 90s. Some of the tapes had already stretched when I last listened 
to them in about 1995.

There is one duplicate of my collection, also held by a Dutch composer, 
but I have no idea if it is complete. The number of tapes we 
collectively own is quite extensive.

I am considering travelling to Holland in order to pay blank media tax 
again for the CDRs or DVD-Rs that I would need to transfer these to a 
more permanent form of storage. My Dutch composer friend receives few 
commissions, is little known, but has benefitted himself from the blank 
media tax system.

Is one permitted to copy one's own music to an /iPod/ in the UK? I 
presume also not.
in which case 99.9% of iPod owners are breaking the law... the only ones 
who are not are the ones who have repurchased their own copies online. 
Might be a little shock to the rather smug iPod users who think they've 
gone 'legit'....

mC~


Dermot Bradley wrote:

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>>As I understand it, it's legal to import copyright material as long as the
>>copying, had it occurred within the UK, would have been legal under UK
>>law.
>>Therefore no, you can't, as it would have been illegal to copy it in the
>>UK.
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>Which also means if you are flying from one country to another via the UK
>for example (say a 2 hour transfer at Heathrow) that in principle you're
>breaking UK law if you've got your iPod/whatever with you. Same goes for
>people with portable video players if they have any films on them (unless
>they're recorded off TV for timeshifting purposes). Many (most?) other
>countries also don't have "fair use" provisions in their copyright law so
>any of us travelling with our music player are now international
>criminals......doh!
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>BTW I was in Virgin Megastore at lunchtime and just behind the counter was
>a big poster about digital media players "encouraging" you to rip your
>music CDs and transfer them to music players. Isn't there some sort of
>legal offence of "encouraging someone to break the law"??????
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