Re: Fwd: [Fedora-sparc] SPARC Status update
Mike Brown <[email protected]> Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:25:27 -0600
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--===============3910249728931932184== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64ccb3ca8ce850483b99c30 --0016e64ccb3ca8ce850483b99c30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree to this post might be time for a face lift and to re start the project from scratch if Aurora is going to continue in the operating system race three legged dogs can't win hourse races On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:48 PM, mat <[email protected]> wrote: > Upgrade from Aurora 2.99 - massive fail. > > Install fresh on a U60 - massive fail (details can be provided). > > Arg. > > I don't have any other spare machines to waste on this - to be honest all > the sparc64 machines I look after have been running OpenBSD or Debian (or > even Solaris) for several years now, whereas Aurora has been - let's face it > - essentially a dead, experimental project for too long. Way too long. > > Guys, I love Aurora but seriously you're going to have to give me a good > reason to not just utterly dump it at this point. > > The web site is dead. There is no documentation worth anything. You seem to > have all switched to IRC (which must be great for all the 12 year olds out > there hacking Sparc/Linux...) instead of using a perfectly good mailing list > which all of us normal adults can check. > > Best regards, and thanks again to all the hardworking devs. I will keep > shadowing the developments and testing new systems, but I have officially > given up at this point of ever having an Aurora machine in anything but > unstable/dev/testing/broken ever again. > > I hate to say it, but Debian have (multiple) perfectly fine distro versions > for Sparc64. I recommend you use them. Fedora is utterly useless for anyone > who doesn't have stupid x86/x86_64/PPC boxes. > > God, I just re-read this and it seems like a terrible flame but I hate > because I love. Please, please unfuck Aurora so I can actually use it again. > > > Cheers, > > mat > ------------------ > [email protected] > www.fsck.no-ip.org > PGPKEY: 0x5F7549AE > > > > On 08/03/10 15:41, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > >> Forwarding here to make sure those following this list still see it >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >> >> Subject: [Fedora-sparc] SPARC Status update >> Date: Sunday 07 March 2010, 07:03:14 pm >> From: Dennis Gilmore<[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Hi all, >> >> Ive pushed a fedora 12 install tree to >> http://secondary.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/12- >> Alpha/Fedora/sparc/ >> which should also be on all the mirrors. >> >> https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-rawhide&arch=sparc >> will give you the list of mirrors. >> >> Please test and report issues here. >> >> To partition your system you need to break to a shell. either in rescue >> mode >> or via a tty in anaconda as soon as the install starts. you should then >> do a >> manual partition in anaconda and allocate mount point and file systems to >> the >> partitions you have made. formatting works just fine, creating the >> partitions >> doesn't. >> >> some big fat warnings >> >> Partitioning in anaconda does not work. >> upgrades from previous releases are completely untested. >> prelink is broken and needs to be disabled post install >> selinux does not work in enforcing mode >> you will need to use vnc for install (you need to select manual >> partitioning) >> network booting the installer does not work and likely will not be >> supported >> at all (the images are way bigger than OBP allows. we need some new >> solution) >> >> The UUID issue reported on this list seems to be solely due to artifacts >> left >> over from lvm previously being used on an install. >> >> i've probably missed things. >> >> Dennis >> > _______________________________________________ > Aurora-sparc-user mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.auroralinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aurora-sparc-user > Aurora FAQ: http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~mas01r/aurorafaq.html > --0016e64ccb3ca8ce850483b99c30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>I agree to this post=A0 might be time for a face lift and to re start = the project from scratch=A0=A0 if Aurora is going to continue in the operat= ing system race <br>three legged dogs can't win hourse races </div> <div><br>=A0</div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:48 PM, mat <span dir=3D= "ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>><= /span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Upgrade from Aurora 2.99 - massi= ve fail.<br><br>Install fresh on a U60 - massive fail (details can be provi= ded).<br> <br>Arg.<br><br>I don't have any other spare machines to waste on this = - to be honest all the sparc64 machines I look after have been running Open= BSD or Debian (or even Solaris) for several years now, whereas Aurora has b= een - let's face it - essentially a dead, experimental project for too = long. Way too long.<br> <br>Guys, I love Aurora but seriously you're going to have to give me a= good reason to not just utterly dump it at this point.<br><br>The web site= is dead. There is no documentation worth anything. You seem to have all sw= itched to IRC (which must be great for all the 12 year olds out there hacki= ng Sparc/Linux...) instead of using a perfectly good mailing list which all= of us normal adults can check.<br> <br>Best regards, and thanks again to all the hardworking devs. I will keep= shadowing the developments and testing new systems, but I have officially = given up at this point of ever having an Aurora machine in anything but uns= table/dev/testing/broken ever again.<br> <br>I hate to say it, but Debian have (multiple) perfectly fine distro vers= ions for Sparc64. I recommend you use them. Fedora is utterly useless for a= nyone who doesn't have stupid x86/x86_64/PPC boxes.<br><br>God, I just = re-read this and it seems like a terrible flame but I hate because I love. = Please, please unfuck Aurora so I can actually use it again.<br> <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>mat<br>------------------<br><a href=3D"mailto:mat@f= sck.no-ip.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><a href=3D"http:= //www.fsck.no-ip.org/" target=3D"_blank">www.fsck.no-ip.org</a><br>PGPKEY: = 0x5F7549AE<br> <br><br><br>On 08/03/10 15:41, Dennis Gilmore wrote:<br> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Forwarding here to make sure tho= se following this list still see it<br><br><br>---------- =A0Forwarded Mess= age =A0----------<br> <br>Subject: [Fedora-sparc] SPARC Status update<br>Date: Sunday 07 March 20= 10, 07:03:14 pm<br>From: Dennis Gilmore<<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= s" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:sparc= @lists.fedoraproject.org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</= a><br> <br>Hi all,<br><br>Ive pushed a fedora 12 install tree to<br><a href=3D"htt= p://secondary.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/12-" tar= get=3D"_blank">http://secondary.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/rele= ases/test/12-</a><br> Alpha/Fedora/sparc/<br>which should also be on all the mirrors.<br><a href= =3D"https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=3Dfedora-rawhide&= arch=3Dsparc" target=3D"_blank">https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlis= t?repo=3Dfedora-rawhide&arch=3Dsparc</a><br> will give you the list of mirrors.<br><br>Please test and report issues her= e.<br><br>To partition your system you need to break to a shell. =A0either = in rescue mode<br>or via a tty in anaconda as soon as the install starts. = =A0you should then do a<br> manual partition in anaconda and allocate mount point and file systems to t= he<br>partitions you have made. =A0formatting works just fine, creating the= partitions<br>doesn't.<br><br>some big fat warnings<br><br>Partitionin= g in anaconda does not work.<br> upgrades from previous releases are completely untested.<br>prelink is brok= en and needs to be disabled post install<br>selinux does not work in enforc= ing mode<br>you will need to use vnc for install (you need to select manual= partitioning)<br> network booting the installer does not work and likely will not be supporte= d<br>at all (the images are way bigger than OBP allows. =A0we need some new= solution)<br><br>The UUID issue reported on this list seems to be solely d= ue to artifacts left<br> over from lvm previously being used on an install.<br><br>i've probably= missed things.<br><br>Dennis<br></blockquote>_____________________________= __________________<br>Aurora-sparc-user mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:A= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Aurora-sparc-user= @lists.auroralinux.org</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.auroralinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aurora-sparc-user"= target=3D"_blank">http://lists.auroralinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aurora-spa= rc-user</a><br>Aurora FAQ: <a href=3D"http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~mas01r/au= rorafaq.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~mas01r/aurorafa= q.html</a><br> </blockquote></div><br> --0016e64ccb3ca8ce850483b99c30-- --===============3910249728931932184== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Aurora-sparc-user mailing list [email protected] http://lists.auroralinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aurora-sparc-user Aurora FAQ: http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~mas01r/aurorafaq.html --===============3910249728931932184==--