Re: USB-C chargers
Adam Nielsen via linux-aus <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.linux.australia |
|---|---|
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
> I have a Thinkpad Carbon X1 Gen5 which shipped with a 65W USB-C PSU > and which runs well with a 45W USB-C PSU. The above advert and > others like it imply that 30W is adequate to power that laptop. > > https://www.kogan.com/au/c/black-friday-sale-22-tech/shop/category/phones-accessories-smartphones-accessories-44025/?facet-features-furniture-filterable=GaN+Technology > > Kogan offered some deals on GaN chargers, the above is the one that's > still on sale, they also had a 30W one for $10 which I bought > expecting it to work with my Thinkpad, but it didn't. > > How do I work out why the charger didn't work? If I buy the 68W > version of that charger is it likely to work? Could it be the USB-C > - USB-C cables that I used (I tested 3 cables of different brands > from my collection)? "Didn't work" is too generic of a term to really offer any suggestions. This could mean: - The charger didn't switch on when connected to the laptop. - The laptop did not react when the charger was connected. - The laptop did react but rejected the charger. - The laptop took its operating power from the charger but did not charge its battery. Without knowing what happened when connecting the charger it's impossible to say. As far as cables, it could be the USB-C cable. You can get cheap ones that are only wired for USB 2.0 internally (but with USB-C plugs), and these won't work for USB 3.0 or USB PD (power delivery) as they physically need more wires in the cable. The only way to confirm this is to test a cable with a known good charger and device, and where the device is one that you know will refuse to use USB 2.0's 5 volts. You might think a thicker cable means there must be more wires in it, but not when companies produce USB 2.0 cables with extra thick insulation to mislead unsuspecting customers. As for the charger itself, if you look at the specs they list the voltages and currents supported for USB PD. I think the Thinkpad wants 20 volts (although it may accept less, I don't know), and both chargers you have linked to claim to output 20 volts in their specs, so in theory they would work. However without knowing the specs on the 30 W charger you have, it's hard to say whether this is the problem. If the 30 W charger can't output above 17 V then I'd suspect that could be why it doesn't work, given a known good USB-C cable. As more devices start to use USB PD, you may want to consider getting a USB power monitor that supports PD, so you can plug it in between the device and charger and actually see what's going on. These devices will show the actual voltage and current on a small screen, so you can see exactly what's going on and more easily compare different devices and chargers. Here is an example I picked randomly from Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32816538942.html There are heaps, just make sure you get one with USB-C plugs and support for USB PD. If you have a known working set up (say the official Thinkpad charger and laptop) you can plug the charger into the power monitor, then connect the power monitor to the laptop with a suspect USB cable. You will then see on the power monitor screen whether it jumps up to 20 volts (meaning the suspect cable is good) or whether it stays at the standard 5 volts (meaning the suspect cable is not PD-compatible so it can only be used for basic USB 2.0-compatible charging). Cheers, Adam. _______________________________________________ linux-aus mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to linux-aus-unsubscribe-cunTk1MwBs8iFSDQTTA3OBCuuivNXqWP@public.gmane.org