Re: Grant Application from Fraser Tweedale for Support the myGov Code Generator source code FOI review
Mark Foster via linux-aus <[email protected]> Sat, 18 Jul 2026 12:53:19 +1200
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Scaremongering does nobody any favours=2E
Per <https://www=2Eabc=2Enet=2Eau/news/2026-07-13/digital-arrival-cards-in=
ternational-travellers-australia/106907440>
- will expand to be a web form not just an app
- paper form option remains available=20
By all means keep lobbying for transparency and accessibility=2E But don't=
use scare tactics and share misleading information - or include your citat=
ions please=2E
Mark=2E
On 18 July 2026 11:11:36=E2=80=AFam NZST, Info via linux-aus <linux-aus@li=
sts=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau> wrote:
>I agree on the need to fight for transparency=2E
>Australia is about to replace entry cards with an app=2E On return from m=
y next trip, I will be forced
>to install an application=2E Where is the code for review?
>
>Establishing a precedent will help fight for a public review of this new =
app=2E
>
>Peter Moulding
>
>On 16/7/26 22:23, Jonathan Oxer via linux-aus wrote:
>> I fully support this initiative by Fraser and would like to see the gra=
nt approved for the full amount=2E
>>=20
>> Linux Australia is generally seen as having a primary role within the O=
pen Source community as a facilitator of conferences and events=2E However,=
it has also undertaken other roles in the past including lobbying, such as=
during the period of the introduction of the Australia-United States Free =
Trade Agreement (AUSFTA) way back in 2004/5=2E I believe that supporting in=
itiatives such as Fraser's are directly in line with the values and mission=
of the organisation:
>>=20
>> https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/about-us/values/ <https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/abo=
ut-us/values/>
>>=20
>> It's easy to let issues like this slide=2E When someone is willing to s=
tep up and take a stand, we as a community should support them=2E
>>=20
>> Regards,
>>=20
>> Jonathan Oxer
>>=20
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 at 21:08, Linux Australia Website via linux-aus <li=
nux-aus@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau <mailto:linux-aus@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau=
>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Your Email Address: frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau <mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=
=2Eau>
>> Project name: Support the myGov Code Generator source code FOI revi=
ew
>> Grant Type: Project Grant
>> Aim of the project: I am applying for a grant of $5,000 to help cov=
er litigation costs in a
>> Freedom of Information review at the Administrative Review Tribunal=
=2E The matter is *Tweedale and
>> CEO, Services Australia*, file 2025/4916=2E I applied for review of=
Services Australia=E2=80=99s access
>> refusal decision in relation to my request for access to the source=
code of the myGov Code
>> Generator app, a (now retired) mobile app published by Services Aus=
tralia for myGov login MFA
>> (TOTP)=2E The case involves critical questions about government tra=
nsparency and software
>> security, the validity of =E2=80=9Csecurity by obscurity=E2=80=9D a=
rguments in this context, and the benefits
>> and consequences of governments granting access to the source code =
of applications they develop
>> and expect citizens to run on their devices=2E
>> Much more detail about this matter, and regular updates, are availa=
ble at https://openmygov=2Eau
>> <https://openmygov=2Eau>=2E
>> The outcomes of this legal proceeding and my associated efforts wil=
l include:
>> * Precedent: A binding or persuasive administrative law decision re=
garding the accessibility of
>> government-developed source code under Australian law, and the vali=
dity of =E2=80=9Csecurity by
>> obscurity=E2=80=9D arguments for refusing access=2E
>> * openmygov=2Eau: continued free, unhindered public access to all d=
isclosable submissions,
>> evidence, expert witness reports, decisions and other documents, an=
d a chronicle of the conduct
>> of this case=E2=80=94in other words, a legal toolkit for future ope=
n-source FOI litigation in Australia
>> (and possibly useful elsewhere)
>> I am happy to answer any questions or provide further information t=
o Council and/or the Linux
>> Australia membership in support of this application=2E
>> ## Risks and disclosures
>> ### Impact on LA funding and government relations
>> Impact: Actively financing public-interest litigation against a maj=
or Federal Government agency
>> may have a chilling effect on future sponsorship opportunities for =
LA-auspiced events, or
>> otherwise introduce friction in LA=E2=80=99s interactions with Gove=
rnment=2E
>> Mitigation: Contributing to the costs of this litigation does not e=
njoin LA as a party or
>> subject LA to any risks of further direct costs=2E Also, the matter=
and the purpose of the review
>> is aligned with Linux Australia=E2=80=99s values and purpose and is=
being pursued in the public
>> interest; it is unlikely to be perceived as frivilous or vexatious=
=2E
>> ### The Tribunal decides against transparency
>> Impact: Should the Tribunal agree with the Respondent=E2=80=99s =E2=
=80=9Csecurity by obscurity=E2=80=9D arguments and
>> refuses access, it sets an unfortunate precedent=2E
>> Mitigation: This is barely worse than the status quo, where agencie=
s refuse access for these
>> reasons anyway, but those decisions are not challenged=2E Grounds f=
or appeal (judicial review) in
>> Federal Court will be considered, although costs would be in anothe=
r order of magnitude and may
>> be prohibitive=2E Win or lose, the community will have an extensive=
and durable record of and
>> playbook for FOI litigation involving open source and cybersecurity=
matters=2E
>> ### Disclosure of EO2027 treasurer role
>> I am a core organising team member and the appointed Treasurer for =
the Everything Open 2027
>> conference, which is an official subcommittee of Linux Australia=2E=
I have no influence over grant
>> funding decisions, and conference money is managed in complete sepa=
rate accounts=2E
>> Estimated cost breakdown of the project: Through a successful Pozib=
le crowdfunding campaign
>> early in 2026, and an ongoing Chuffed campaign, I raised approximat=
ely $20,000 to help with the
>> costs of this litigation=2E Though I always expected costs to excee=
d this amount, procedural
>> battles over Services Australia=E2=80=99s national security claims =
and applications for confidentiality
>> orders over critical evidence have depleted these funds sooner than=
expected=2E We are now in an
>> intense phase, finalising the evidence and submissions=2E The subst=
antive hearing is listed for 3
>> days from 2=E2=80=934 September in Melbourne=2E
>> Cumulative costs by the end of this proceeding will certainly excee=
d $30,000, and could end up
>> in the range of $40,000=E2=80=93$50,000=2E The shortfall between fu=
nds raised (so far) through
>> crowdfunding campaigns and the eventual costs is therefore at least=
$10,000 and possibly much
>> more=2E=C2=A0 In addition to Wise Law=E2=80=99s fees (the biggest e=
xpense by far), my costs include travel to
>> and accommodation in Melbourne for the hearing, and for a one-day s=
trategy meeting back in
>> February=2E=C2=A0 (Wise Law and both expert witnesses are based in =
Melbourne=2E)
>> I am applying for a **$5,000** grant to help close this gap=2E I wo=
uld gratefully accept any
>> lesser amount the Linux Australia Council deems appropriate, as I r=
ecognise that the requested
>> amount is a significant proportion of the 2026 grants program budge=
t, and I do not want to
>> disadvantage or preclude other worthwhile grant opportunities=2E
>> Project team details: I (Fraser) am a free software developer and a=
ctive member of the
>> Australian open source community=2E Most of my work over the last d=
ecade has been on open source
>> PKI, authentication and identity management solutions, and supply c=
hain security=2E I will give
>> evidence in this proceeding on open source public policy and law in=
Australia and around the
>> world, and on cybersecurity matters=2E
>> I have engaged two expert witnesses to assist the Tribunal, both kn=
own to the LA membership and
>> Australian open source community: cryptographer and electoral secur=
ity researcher Dr Vanessa
>> Teague; and Dr Peter Serwylo for his Android expertise and involvem=
ent in the F-Droid project=2E
>> Vanessa and Peter are providing their services free of charge=2E
>> My legal representative in this proceeding is Jason Bosland of Wise=
Law, a boutique cyber law
>> firm based in Melbourne=2E Jason is an expert in administrative law=
, and he has a good grasp on
>> the technical aspects of the case=2E Wise Law are generously provid=
ing their services at a 50%
>> discount, in recognition of the public interest nature of this case=
=2E Jason has also employed a
>> paralegal to help with preparation of my case; this will reduce cos=
ts because the volume of
>> evidence and submissions is significant=2E
>> First Name: Fraser
>> Last Name: Tweedale
>> Email Address: frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau <mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau>
>> A statement including a willingness to provide regular project upda=
tes on the project: I publish
>> detailed information and updates about this case at https://openmyg=
ov=2Eau/ <https://openmygov=2Eau/
>> >=2E All information I can publish, I do, including submissions, e=
vidence, and Tribunal decisions
>> and orders=2E It will form a significant and valuable artifact for =
Freedom of Information
>> applicants or litigants, and people interested in the intersection =
of free/open source software,
>> public policy, and administrative law=2E
>> I am committed to absolute transparency with respect to all funds r=
eceived (from all sources)
>> and all expenditure, including publication of invoices and bank sta=
tements (I have a dedicated
>> bank account for this purpose)=2E
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<html><head></head><body><div dir=3D"auto">Scaremongering does nobody any f=
avours=2E<br><br>Per <<a href=3D"https://www=2Eabc=2Enet=2Eau/news/2026-=
07-13/digital-arrival-cards-international-travellers-australia/106907440">h=
ttps://www=2Eabc=2Enet=2Eau/news/2026-07-13/digital-arrival-cards-internati=
onal-travellers-australia/106907440</a>><br><br>- will expand to be a we=
b form not just an app<br>- paper form option remains available <br><br>By =
all means keep lobbying for transparency and accessibility=2E But don't use=
scare tactics and share misleading information - or include your citations=
please=2E<br><br>Mark=2E</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"auto">On 18 July 2026 11:11:36=E2=80=AFam NZST, Info via linux-aus <=
linux-aus@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau> wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(=
204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class=3D"com-fsck-k9__plain-text-message-pre"><div dir=3D"auto">I agr=
ee on the need to fight for transparency=2E<br>Australia is about to replac=
e entry cards with an app=2E On return from my next trip, I will be forced<=
br>to install an application=2E Where is the code for review?<br><br>Establ=
ishing a precedent will help fight for a public review of this new app=2E<b=
r><br>Peter Moulding<br><br>On 16/7/26 22:23, Jonathan Oxer via linux-aus w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-bottom: 1e=
x; --com-fsck-k9__blockquote-default-border-color: #729fcf;"><div dir=3D"au=
to">I fully support this initiative by Fraser and would like to see the gra=
nt approved for the full amount=2E<br><br>Linux Australia is generally seen=
as having a primary role within the Open Source community as a facilitator=
of conferences and events=2E However, it has also undertaken other roles i=
n the past including lobbying, such as during the period of the introductio=
n of the Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement (AUSFTA) way back in =
2004/5=2E I believe that supporting initiatives such as Fraser's are direct=
ly in line with the values and mission of the organisation:<br><br><a href=
=3D"https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/about-us/values/">https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/abo=
ut-us/values/</a> <<a href=3D"https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/about-us/values/"=
>https://linux=2Eorg=2Eau/about-us/values/</a>><br><br>It's easy to let =
issues like this slide=2E When someone is willing to step up and take a sta=
nd, we as a community should support them=2E<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jonatha=
n Oxer<br><br>On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 at 21:08, Linux Australia Website via lin=
ux-aus <linux-aus@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau <<a href=3D"mailto:linux-a=
us@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau">mailto:linux-aus@lists=2Elinux=2Eorg=2Eau</a>&=
gt;> wrote:<br><br> Your Email Address: frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau <<a =
href=3D"mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau">mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau</a>><=
br> Project name: Support the myGov Code Generator source code FOI revie=
w<br> Grant Type: Project Grant<br> Aim of the project: I am applying=
for a grant of $5,000 to help cover litigation costs in a<br> Freedom o=
f Information review at the Administrative Review Tribunal=2E The matter is=
*Tweedale and<br> CEO, Services Australia*, file 2025/4916=2E I applied=
for review of Services Australia=E2=80=99s access<br> refusal decision =
in relation to my request for access to the source code of the myGov Code<b=
r> Generator app, a (now retired) mobile app published by Services Austr=
alia for myGov login MFA<br> (TOTP)=2E The case involves critical questi=
ons about government transparency and software<br> security, the validit=
y of =E2=80=9Csecurity by obscurity=E2=80=9D arguments in this context, and=
the benefits<br> and consequences of governments granting access to the=
source code of applications they develop<br> and expect citizens to run=
on their devices=2E<br> Much more detail about this matter, and regular=
updates, are available at <a href=3D"https://openmygov=2Eau">https://openm=
ygov=2Eau</a><br> <<a href=3D"https://openmygov=2Eau">https://openmyg=
ov=2Eau</a>>=2E<br> The outcomes of this legal proceeding and my asso=
ciated efforts will include:<br> * Precedent: A binding or persuasive ad=
ministrative law decision regarding the accessibility of<br> government-=
developed source code under Australian law, and the validity of =E2=80=9Cse=
curity by<br> obscurity=E2=80=9D arguments for refusing access=2E<br> =
* openmygov=2Eau: continued free, unhindered public access to all disclosa=
ble submissions,<br> evidence, expert witness reports, decisions and oth=
er documents, and a chronicle of the conduct<br> of this case=E2=80=94in=
other words, a legal toolkit for future open-source FOI litigation in Aust=
ralia<br> (and possibly useful elsewhere)<br> I am happy to answer an=
y questions or provide further information to Council and/or the Linux<br> =
Australia membership in support of this application=2E<br> ## Risks a=
nd disclosures<br> ### Impact on LA funding and government relations<br>=
Impact: Actively financing public-interest litigation against a major F=
ederal Government agency<br> may have a chilling effect on future sponso=
rship opportunities for LA-auspiced events, or<br> otherwise introduce f=
riction in LA=E2=80=99s interactions with Government=2E<br> Mitigation: =
Contributing to the costs of this litigation does not enjoin LA as a party =
or<br> subject LA to any risks of further direct costs=2E Also, the matt=
er and the purpose of the review<br> is aligned with Linux Australia=E2=
=80=99s values and purpose and is being pursued in the public<br> intere=
st; it is unlikely to be perceived as frivilous or vexatious=2E<br> ### =
The Tribunal decides against transparency<br> Impact: Should the Tribuna=
l agree with the Respondent=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Csecurity by obscurity=E2=80=
=9D arguments and<br> refuses access, it sets an unfortunate precedent=
=2E<br> Mitigation: This is barely worse than the status quo, where agen=
cies refuse access for these<br> reasons anyway, but those decisions are=
not challenged=2E Grounds for appeal (judicial review) in<br> Federal C=
ourt will be considered, although costs would be in another order of magnit=
ude and may<br> be prohibitive=2E Win or lose, the community will have a=
n extensive and durable record of and<br> playbook for FOI litigation in=
volving open source and cybersecurity matters=2E<br> ### Disclosure of E=
O2027 treasurer role<br> I am a core organising team member and the appo=
inted Treasurer for the Everything Open 2027<br> conference, which is an=
official subcommittee of Linux Australia=2E I have no influence over grant=
<br> funding decisions, and conference money is managed in complete sepa=
rate accounts=2E<br> Estimated cost breakdown of the project: Through a =
successful Pozible crowdfunding campaign<br> early in 2026, and an ongoi=
ng Chuffed campaign, I raised approximately $20,000 to help with the<br> =
costs of this litigation=2E Though I always expected costs to exceed this =
amount, procedural<br> battles over Services Australia=E2=80=99s nationa=
l security claims and applications for confidentiality<br> orders over c=
ritical evidence have depleted these funds sooner than expected=2E We are n=
ow in an<br> intense phase, finalising the evidence and submissions=2E T=
he substantive hearing is listed for 3<br> days from 2=E2=80=934 Septemb=
er in Melbourne=2E<br> Cumulative costs by the end of this proceeding wi=
ll certainly exceed $30,000, and could end up<br> in the range of $40,00=
0=E2=80=93$50,000=2E The shortfall between funds raised (so far) through<br=
> crowdfunding campaigns and the eventual costs is therefore at least $1=
0,000 and possibly much<br> more=2E In addition to Wise Law=E2=80=
=99s fees (the biggest expense by far), my costs include travel to<br> a=
nd accommodation in Melbourne for the hearing, and for a one-day strategy m=
eeting back in<br> February=2E (Wise Law and both expert witnesses=
are based in Melbourne=2E)<br> I am applying for a **$5,000** grant to =
help close this gap=2E I would gratefully accept any<br> lesser amount t=
he Linux Australia Council deems appropriate, as I recognise that the reque=
sted<br> amount is a significant proportion of the 2026 grants program b=
udget, and I do not want to<br> disadvantage or preclude other worthwhil=
e grant opportunities=2E<br> Project team details: I (Fraser) am a free =
software developer and active member of the<br> Australian open source c=
ommunity=2E Most of my work over the last decade has been on open source<br=
> PKI, authentication and identity management solutions, and supply chai=
n security=2E I will give<br> evidence in this proceeding on open source=
public policy and law in Australia and around the<br> world, and on cyb=
ersecurity matters=2E<br> I have engaged two expert witnesses to assist =
the Tribunal, both known to the LA membership and<br> Australian open so=
urce community: cryptographer and electoral security researcher Dr Vanessa<=
br> Teague; and Dr Peter Serwylo for his Android expertise and involveme=
nt in the F-Droid project=2E<br> Vanessa and Peter are providing their s=
ervices free of charge=2E<br> My legal representative in this proceeding=
is Jason Bosland of Wise Law, a boutique cyber law<br> firm based in Me=
lbourne=2E Jason is an expert in administrative law, and he has a good gras=
p on<br> the technical aspects of the case=2E Wise Law are generously pr=
oviding their services at a 50%<br> discount, in recognition of the publ=
ic interest nature of this case=2E Jason has also employed a<br> paraleg=
al to help with preparation of my case; this will reduce costs because the =
volume of<br> evidence and submissions is significant=2E<br> First Na=
me: Fraser<br> Last Name: Tweedale<br> Email Address: frase@frase=2Ei=
d=2Eau <<a href=3D"mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=2Eau">mailto:frase@frase=2Eid=
=2Eau</a>><br> A statement including a willingness to provide regular=
project updates on the project: I publish<br> detailed information and =
updates about this case at <a href=3D"https://openmygov=2Eau/">https://open=
mygov=2Eau/</a> <<a href=3D"https://openmygov=2Eau/">https://openmygov=
=2Eau/</a><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-botto=
m: 1ex; --com-fsck-k9__blockquote-default-border-color: #ad7fa8;"><div dir=
=3D"auto">=2E All information I can publish, I do, including submissions, e=
vidence, and Tribunal decisions<br></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"> =
and orders=2E It will form a significant and valuable artifact for Freedom=
of Information<br> applicants or litigants, and people interested in th=
e intersection of free/open source software,<br> public policy, and admi=
nistrative law=2E<br> I am committed to absolute transparency with respe=
ct to all funds received (from all sources)<br> and all expenditure, inc=
luding publication of invoices and bank statements (I have a dedicated<br> =
bank account for this purpose)=2E<hr> linux-aus mailing list<br> l=
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