2025-10-01 - coreboot Leadership Meetings Minutes

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# 2025-10-01 - coreboot Leadership Meetings 


## Open Action Items
  * 2024-11-27
    * [Open] Send out poll with regards to  LLM usage (requested by SFC)
  * 2024-10-30
    * [Open] Add clarification to docs,“do not use gerrit change-id or CB: format in reference to already-merged patches.”
  * 2024-10-16
    * [Open] Matt: Set up a meeting to discuss board status alternatives and send out invites. 
      * Decouple data collection with uploading
      * Require gerrit credentials or other auth to push
      * Json format?
      * https://github.com/chrultrabook/linux-tools/blob/main/debugging.sh
  * 2024-09-18
    * [Open] Jon: Schedule a dedicated meeting to discuss the Coverity defects and action plan.
      * Werner: Send out an invite for the meeting. 
        Sent out a poll to find a time slot: https://rallly.co/invite/1c8J3azXAcje
  * 2024-05-01
    * [Open] Nick Van Der Harst volunteered for Dutch. "gogo gogo" would like to translate to Russian (?).
  * 2024-01-10
          * Nico: (https://review.coreboot.org/q/topic:enforce_region_api)
      *  [Open] Daniel:Look at how we want to localize (non-console) strings for coreboot. Long-term project.


## Announcements & Events
  * OSFC 2025 
    Dates: October 7–10, 2025
    
 
 
## Late GMT coreboot Leadership Meeting Minutes


## Attendees
Mina Asante, Martin Roth, Jay Talbott, Julius Werner, Werner Zeh, Matt DeVillier, Maximilian Brune, Jon Murphy, Andy Ebrahiem, Karthik R.


## Minutes


### No issues on the early GMT meeting agenda.

### [Martin] 25.09 coreboot release tagged on 2025_09_25.
  * (Well, actually the 26th, but the tag was done on a commit from the 25th, so it’s roughly the same.)
  * Final release notes: (https://review.coreboot.org/c/coreboot/+/8938)
  * Will do the announcement tomorrow

### [Martin] AMD Phoenix openSIL Proof of concept was released yesterday.
  * (https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-openSIL-Phoenix)
  * I’ve created a repo at coreboot to act as a submodule and will be adding the new submodule shortly.

### [Martin] We’d like to figure out how to set up a testing infrastructure and pay someone to do it.
  * [Matt] Need to revamp the board info to go along with the test.
    * [Werner] Siemens has a setup with 2 boards currently. This could be extended by a couple of boards. Builds flashes, boots, collects coreboot logs.
      * Add siemens bot as a reviewer.
      * Could be extended to test toolchain builds.
  * [Max] For testing there typically aren’t maintenance contracts which makes it less useful.
    * Get bids.
    * Start a funding campaign.
    * Buy boards.
    * Start testing.
      * At least one board per SOC.
      * Martin is working on the framework 13 laptop using the phoenix SOC and would (depending on cost) pay for this board to be tested.
  * Look at testing legacy boards on older branches (like 4.11)
    * [Jay] Syspro could possibly contribute boards. OCP boards and others.
    * [Martin] I also have AMD boards
  * [Julius] ATF has a setup like this - $5000/board/year (estimate) - The hardware isn’t typically the limit, it’s more the funding
  * [Jonmurphy] Google could probably contribute as well.
    * Need to understand what testing needs to be done. If this is rate limited, google might be able to help.
    * There’s currently a daily check on various chromebooks [support lifecycle - non eol] 
    * Build, boot, functional tests
    * Need to figure out what’s being tested from main.
    * Martin to work with Jon on scoping what needs to be tested.

### We’re looking at updating the toolchain to GCC 15
  * [Matt] there are issues building it on the host.
  * Felix updated the builders, but there were some issues

### Elias is working to update code to C23
  * [Max] Can we hold off on forcing the standard update for at least a year
  * [Martin] Let’s update code to support the standard and test with it, but not force the change. Maybe make the standard a Kconfig option.

### Information
  * The upcoming coreboot coverity review session scheduled for October 8, has been canceled.



## Early GMT coreboot Leadership Meeting Canceled.
  * No issues on the agenda.



# Next Leadership Meetings Date
  * October 15, 2025.
  * [coreboot Calendar](https://coreboot.org/calendar.html).




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