Re: ML moderation (was: security alerts in busybox)

Roberto,

I really think it is now time for you to shut up.

Le mar. 28 avr. 2026 à 07:22, Roberto A. Foglietta
<[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 at 23:02, Emmanuel Deloget <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Le lun. 27 avr. 2026 à 06:46, Roberto A. Foglietta via busybox
> > <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 at 06:13, Jody Bruchon via busybox
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Poor baby. You have no power here. But please feel free to write ten paragraphs of wasted time no one will read in response.
> > >
> > > One more message like this and you cannot play your playstation for
> > > one entire month. Think twice before to answer, because I am NOT
> > > speaking about a device.
> > >
> > > Best regards, R
> >
> > Is this a threat of physical violence?
>
> Infrastructure shutdown because legal or technical issues can be
> considered a physical violence? Yes, then it is a yes. No, then it is
> a no. Some people will die because they mess-up certain things, for
> sure. As usual, and if this "truth" hurts you or your sensibility,
> then I am sorry for you that are living in sweet lies. Especially in
> war-times (and since 2022 war isn't about "sub-humans" in some unknown
> place that should be victims of a war because we can have cheap oil).
>
> For those who hate I am self-citing: "noi siamo i palestinesi di
> domani" (we are the palestinians of the future) in which I have tried
> to explain that war isn't a videogame but a peculiar conditions in
> which to stop others doing things, they should have die. Again,
> nothing new. Iliad or Odyssey which are 20-25 centuries old are
> clearly stating that our "civilisation" has a tight relationship with
> war, conquest, submission, and fight for women and power.
>
> Whoever would be scandalised by this saying that "modern times" are
> different forgot that also in cold-war times an era of peace and
> prosperity people were dying (Ustica DC9, Piazza Fontana, Bologna
> Station, etc.). Unfortunately, current times are worse. Better in some
> fashion but worse in many others. One of the worst is the alienation
> from reality. Like people that are fighting for a spot in a conference
> forgetting that the crappy code that they pushed for upstreaming will
> end-up into a survival critical system in hospitals, for example.
>
> > Is this a threat of physical violence?
>
> Indeed, if we let crappy code enter into critical infrastructures and
> systems, it will be a sort of indirect by physical violence. From this
> PoV, those who kill few to avoid many dies, aren't totally wrong. They
> simply knew that those crazy alienated people who fight for visibility
> or exploiting others would not stop by any other means. So, under this
> scenario WHICH is the legitimacy of the violence? We started the XXI
> century looking at the Police beating the blood out of the people in
> Genova G8 riots, and after a 1/4 of the same century we are here to
> decide WHO should die because things are messed-up too much.
>
> Would we bet that me proposing that WHO is not the point but we should
> work on the HOW, is a suggestion that would not receive any
> consideration?
>
> In the current social framework, "receiving consideration" isn't a
> spot in a conference but receiving the payments that I request from
> 2022, and I publicly stated sums should be doubled after 25th April
> 2026. Because in a "corrupted and alienated" world, there are two ways
> to drive the change: one is killing those who would not stop
> otherwise, the other is providing "fiat currency as social trust
> metric" to change the HOW. Hopefully both of these ways would be
> tried. Hopefully, because the first is ongoing for years by now. Those
> who propose to "wait" are those betting they are surviving because
> they are still blessed by consensus and it is a totally false
> supposition, anyway. We have a lot of consensus and means to buy or
> drive it, we lack reality instead.
>
> Who are we? We are Europeans people, we fight each others since
> ancient times, we killed native americans to take their lands, we
> enslaved african people to cultivate that lands, we decided after the
> WWII to push forward the Nazis plot about creating a country for jews
> and we did it, etc. etc. -- therefore do not pretend you are someone
> else, just because you born yesterday. You might be ignorant but the
> rest of the world did not forget about us, especially those who have
> been our victims along "the history of our civilization" including all
> the people and "witches" we burn on a public square for the sake of
> our fancy beliefs.
>
> > Is this a threat of physical violence?
>
> Pathetic question, indeed.
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