Re: Brailliant Bi 40X and bluetooth

Samuel Thibault <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.accessibility
Organization I am not organized
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Hello,

Isabel Ruffell, le dim. 04 mai 2025 13:26:34 +0100, a ecrit:
> I am not sure if this is the most appropriate list, but since I think my
> issue combines newish peripheral, brltty and bluetooth issues, it seemed
> like a good place to start :-)

It would probably be better to ask [email protected] where the brltty
users and maintainers are.

> I have been using a Brailliant BI 40X for the past couple of years with
> Debian Stable, but only over usb. This *mostly* works - except with the
> installer,

Ah? The installer should be auto-detecting it. Does it have 1c71/c131
USB ID ? The udev rule says "HID protocol" so maybe you need to switch
your device to some HID mode to get it auto-detected.

Concerning bluetooth, I don't know.

Samuel

> where I have had to install a number of systems with sighted
> assistance (I may simply be choosing the wrong options, but there we go).
> 
> 
> Although usb is workable, I would like to get the bluetooth working, and I
> have periodically attempted this, depending on levels of frustration,
> procrastination and entanglement with cables. I managed to get a 2018ish
> BrailleNote Touch working eventually, and indeed still can get it to work
> now that I know what I am doing, but I know that the bluetooth connection in
> the Braillan --X series is different (no PIN).
> 
> 
> The behaviour I experience is this:
> 
> 
> 1. I  can pair and trust the device
> 
> 2. I can initiate a connection which is reported on the device
> 
> 3. When switching to that connection on the device, I get the dreaded
> "Braille Display" coming up, which means no input
> 
> 4. On the laptop, a connection is notified, rapidly followed by a
> disconnection notice, and this then repeats until I stop the laptop and
> device talking to each other.
> 
> 
> Consultation of logs reveals two possibly pertinent remarks in the brltty
> systemd log:
> 
> 
> 1. RFCOMM error (111), connection refused
> 
> 2. hidOpenBluetoothDevice error (38): function not implemented
> 
> 
> I did look into rfcomm and played with that for a bit, but not so as to
> achieve anything useful.
> 
> 
> So, I am not quite sure where to go next. I'd be happy to dive into the
> code, but bluetooth is not something I have dabbled in. Any pointers or
> guidance would be really appreciated. OK, it might be a case of talking to
> HumanWare (I see they have a guide to usb connections on android, using
> brltty, and that suggests to me that the bluetooth situation there is also
> problematic - certainly I have never got that to work either), but I wonder
> if there is scope for implementing something without waiting for them, who
> seem to be in no hurry.
> 
> 
> Fundamentally: is this a known issue, and are there steps that I can take
> towards resolving it?
> 
> 
> Thanks for reading!
> 
> 
> Isabel
> 
> 
> 
>
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