Re: no speech in the console but speech in the mate desktop under Trixie

Hi, Here is first the alsa search and then the pipewire search. Sep 11 
20:07:10 dellinspironn7110 systemd-udevd[581]: 
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules:18 GOTO="alsa_restore_std" 
has no matching label, ignoring.


Sep 11 20:07:10 dellinspironn7110 systemd-udevd[581]: 
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules:18 The line has no effect 
any more, dropping.


Sep 11 20:07:10 dellinspironn7110 systemd-udevd[581]: 
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules:22 GOTO="alsa_restore_std" 
has no matching label, ignoring.


Sep 11 20:07:10 dellinspironn7110 systemd-udevd[581]: 
/usr/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules:22 The line has no effect 
any more, dropping.


Sep 11 20:07:31 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1]: alsa-state.service - 
Manage Sound Card State (restore and store) was skipped because of an 
unmet condition
check (ConditionPathExists=/etc/alsa/state-daemon.conf).

Sep 11 20:07:31 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1]: Starting 
alsa-restore.service - Save/Restore Sound Card State...

Sep 11 20:07:31 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1]: Finished 
alsa-restore.service - Save/Restore Sound Card State.
  Sep 11 20:07:34 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1162]: Listening on 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:07:34 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1162]: Listening on 
pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 11 20:07:34 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1162]: Started 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 11 20:07:34 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1162]: Started 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:07:34 dellinspironn7110 dbus-daemon[894]: [system] Activating 
via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1' 
unit='rtkit-daemon.service' requested by ':1.25' (uid=105 pid=1186 
comm="/usr/bin/pipewire -c filter-chain.conf")
Sep 11 20:12:27 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Listening on 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:12:27 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Listening on 
pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 11 20:12:27 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Started 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 11 20:12:27 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Started 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Stopping 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio...
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Stopped 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 wireplumber[1550]: wireplumber: 
disconnected from pipewire
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Stopping 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service...
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Stopped 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Closed 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 11 20:13:26 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1523]: Closed pipewire.socket 
- PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: pipewire-pulse.socket - 
PipeWire PulseAudio was skipped because of an unmet condition check 
(ConditionUser=!root).
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: pipewire.socket - 
PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets was skipped because of an unmet 
condition check (ConditionUser=!root).
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: pipewire.service - 
PipeWire Multimedia Service was skipped because of an unmet condition 
check (ConditionUser=!root).
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: filter-chain.service: 
Bound to unit pipewire.service, but unit isn't active.
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: wireplumber.service: 
Bound to unit pipewire.service, but unit isn't active.
Sep 11 20:14:01 dellinspironn7110 systemd[1667]: pipewire-pulse.service 
- PipeWire PulseAudio was skipped because of an unmet condition check 
(ConditionUser=!root).
Sep 12 10:13:02 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Listening on 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 12 10:13:02 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Listening on 
pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 12 10:13:02 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Started 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 12 10:13:02 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Started 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Stopping 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio...
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Stopped 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 wireplumber[5547]: wireplumber: 
disconnected from pipewire
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Stopping 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service...
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Stopped 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Closed 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 12 10:21:28 dellinspironn7110 systemd[5520]: Closed pipewire.socket 
- PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 12 17:20:46 dellinspironn7110 systemd[10318]: Listening on 
pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio.
Sep 12 17:20:46 dellinspironn7110 systemd[10318]: Listening on 
pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Sockets.
Sep 12 17:20:46 dellinspironn7110 systemd[10318]: Started 
pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Sep 12 17:20:46 dellinspironn7110 systemd[10318]: Started 
pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio.
What can you make of this?  Nick Gawronski

On 9/13/2025 1:20 PM, Chevelle wrote:
> Try doing a 'journalctl' as root and look for Alsa or Pipewire errors 
> after boot.
>
>
> On 9/12/25 6:10 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, Just did another test and the same thing is happening on the 
>> latest development version of the debian-installer so not sure what 
>> to do at this point as I still have ssh and mate desktop access with 
>> speech just no console sounds what so ever.  Nick Gawronski
>>
>> On 9/12/2025 3:15 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>> Hi, No speech what so ever.  If I ssh into the system and run 
>>> alsamixer as root I get the error message cannot open mixer: Host is 
>>> down.  If I login to the mate desktop I get orca working but no 
>>> speech if I switch back to the console.  Nick Gawronski
>>>
>>> On 9/12/2025 1:12 PM, Chevelle wrote:
>>>> On this system I have 'espeakup' and 'speakup-tools' installed. Are 
>>>> you sure you don't have speech in the console, or is it just 
>>>> delayed.  If you login without speech, does it eventually start 
>>>> talking?  Go into the Mate/Sound preferences and set the volume to 
>>>> about 65,000.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/12/25 11:37 AM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>>>> Hi, After doing some test installations it appears that now sound 
>>>>> is totally broken in the console even when on a fresh installation 
>>>>> on a system where previously sound worked regardless of if you 
>>>>> were in the mate desktop and the console but only one at a time 
>>>>> now I only get speech in the mate desktop and in the console the 
>>>>> same thing no speech and the alsa mixer is down when I try to run 
>>>>> it. What information can I provide to help resolve these issues? 
>>>>> Nick Gawronski
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11/2025 3:26 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, I am not sure what update caused this issue to happen but now 
>>>>>> if I boot into a console I get no speech from espeakup.  If I try 
>>>>>> espeakup or any console based audio program.  I am able to boot 
>>>>>> into the mate desktop by starting the lightdm service and orca 
>>>>>> runs just fine but at a very low volume.  Once I am in the mate 
>>>>>> desktop I go to a terminal and run alsamixer and set it back to 
>>>>>> %100 and then run as root alsactl store to save the settings and 
>>>>>> again I have to do this over and over. If I ssh into my linux 
>>>>>> system and run alsamixer when the mate desktop is not active and 
>>>>>> run alsamixer as root I get the message that the mixer device is 
>>>>>> down.  When I also try to access the speakup console with control 
>>>>>> and alt and f1 in the mate desktop I also get no speech.  This is 
>>>>>> why I usually have the mate desktop disabled as i have never 
>>>>>> managed to get both espeakup and orca working when I would like 
>>>>>> to do this.  Other then a complete reinstallation what can I do 
>>>>>> to fix this issue? Nick Gawronski
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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