Re: major accessibility and debian-installer issues for the live gnome iso image for totally blind users requiring speech always during the installation and usage of the system

Chevelle <[email protected]> Tue, 12 May 2026 11:47:26 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.accessibility
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On 5/12/26 1:43 AM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> Hi, I am totally blind and am taking some Linux classes at a local=20
> community college here in my local area.=C2=A0 Trying to use the Trixie=
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> live iso image with speech is presenting several major chalenges for=20
> me as a totally blind user and also trying to install from this image=20
> is also not working.=C2=A0 I will outline the issues I am running into an=
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> am wondering who I can send these to so they get fixed as soon as=20
> possible? =C2=A0First, the gnome system does allow the starting of orca=
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> with windows key and alt and s to launch speech. Second, I get in this=20
> totally unusable tour of the gnome desktop that orca will not allow me=20
> to exit out of and from the very few times I have managed to get=20
> terminal open and run nmtui my non-free wireless networking card does=20
> connect to the wireless network.=C2=A0 Once I am in terminal orca does no=
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> automatically read the output of the screen as I had expected it to=20
> and the system will often go to sleep as this is a laptop running=20
> plugd in.=C2=A0 Once I wake it up orca is totally dead and no key presses=
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> will bring it back again.=C2=A0 There is also no sound when the gnome=20
> desktop is ready for input and I think some type of sound or voice=20
> prompt should play for users telling them how to enable speech should=20
> they need it.=C2=A0 I then tried installing espeakup and espeak and=20
> pulseaudio to get better speech output on the live iso image but when=20
> I switched to the console after loading speakup_soft with modprobe I=20
> was not able to get speech working and unable to switch back to the=20
> graphical desktop with control and alt and f7.=C2=A0 I had to reboot the=
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> live iso image again and so thought I would try option s from the boot=20
> menu to run threw the installation rescue mode but again ran into no=20
> non-free firmware in the installer portion of the image yet it is in=20
> the live portion.=C2=A0 I do understand that this is totally loaded into=
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> ram and all changes in live mode are lost but think that the=20
> inaccessible tour needs to have a way out of it as I have tried=20
> everything I could think of to get out of it with no luck.=C2=A0 Having=
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> speech start either automatically or with a key press at the boot menu=20
> would greatly help accessibility a lot or at least playing a sound=20
> with directions on how to enable speech once things are loaded.=C2=A0 Is=
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> there a more accessible live debian iso image then the gnome one that=20
> has either console speech or orca working and has the non-free=20
> firmware in the image and where the installer also has it built in as=20
> it is strange that it exists in the live portion but not in the normal=20
> debian-installer? How would I go about reporting these bugs as these=20
> issues are real issues that students do not have time to fight with=20
> during classes? Nick Gawronski
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