Re: Are follow-up steps for Lomiri/Phosh desktop required?

Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> Sun, 25 May 2025 17:32:28 +0200

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Hi,

Roland Clobus <[email protected]> (2025-05-25):
> I also assumed that the MRs would have been on the radar of the
> relevant teams, but (given some discussion on debian-devel some time
> ago) every DD needs to explicitly enable notifications in Salsa, so
> that was apparently not the case.

As far as I'm concerned, the primary point of contact in Debian is the
BTS. Sure, MRs are nice to get reviews, to get some iterations done,
etc., but I don't think it's reasonable to fire up MRs and hope they'll
be picked up automatically. (This is orthogonal to whether we have
enough workforce to wade through MRs and/or BTS entries.)

> I would feel most comfortable when the corresponding live images are
> being tested in openQA, but we have a chicken-egg issue here.
> 
> See my lightning talk in Hamburg 17:38-18:52:
> https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2025/MiniDebConf-Hamburg/hamburg2025-32-lightning-talks.webm
> Let's have a release goal for forky to have desktop environments
> included/excluded based on tests in (at least) openQA (easy in-easy out)
> 
> I can try to locally generate/mimic the updated task packages and
> build a live image from that (which I once did for the Lomiri
> desktop). I'll need a few day for that (since in IRL I'm also busy :-)

Depending on your availability, what we could try is adding the two
desktops, making that testable (if having them in sid is enough).

I forgot to mention in my first reply: if the images team is worried
about possible side effects that could result from adding choices (e.g.
disturbances in the image build system — via debian-cd), that'd be
another reason against including those tasks. I'm cc-ing debian-cd@ for
input.

(I don't want to speak for them, but I'd call that unlikely. My vague
recollection was probably more about having to build images for each
desktop environment, which we dropped a while back.)

> Looking at the timeline, would it be possible to add the two desktops
> in a point release of trixie and have this not delay the release of
> trixie?

While I'm more than happy to consider backports during point releases,
it would look very weird to me to have brand new desktops added there.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois ([email protected])            <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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