Bug#1077764: Ruling request on os-release specification implementation

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:40, Matthew Vernon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we
> >>> are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial technical
> >>> problem with a hard social conflict at its core. What we are really
> >>> blocked on is that the current owner of os-release refuses to let us
> >>> fix it.
> >> This is an unfair and inaccurate summary. The policy question of "should
> >> testing and unstable be differentiated by os-release" isn't
> >> straightforward, and there isn't consensus that the answer should be
> >> "yes", as you would like it to be.
> >
> > But in what way is it inaccurate?
>
> Your text says (at least as I read it) "the technical problem is easy,
> but the os-release maintainer is preventing us from implementing the
> otherwise-agreed solution". This is an accusation of poor conduct aimed
> at the os-release maintainer.

It is not? It means what it says: the technical side is trivial, but
there is a social disagreement on what the policy should be, hence the
involvement of the CTTE to solve this conflict. If there was agreement
then I wouldn't be here, no? Recognizing and expressing that there is
a policy disagreement, resulting in a change being blocked, is not an
accusation of any kind.

> > And same question as I asked Sean earlier - by "consensus" here, do
> > you mean that you want to see more people outside of TC members
> > chiming in on the policy question?
>
> No. TC bugs are not popularity contests. My point is that your paragraph
> I objected to was claiming that the os-release maintainer was stopping
> "us" [presumably meaning Debian] from fixing the bug that os-release
> does not differentiate between testing and unstable.

No, I did not mean "Debian", I meant people who want to implement this change.