Bug#1115317: marked as done (advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981))
"Debian Bug Tracking System" <[email protected]> Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:11:04 +0000
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1767802264-729813-0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your message dated Wed, 7 Jan 2026 10:49:51 -0500 with message-id <[email protected]> and subject line RE: Technical Committee resolution on /var/lock and systemd has caused the Debian Bug report #1115317, regarding advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#11109= 81) to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact [email protected] immediately.) --=20 1115317: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D1115317 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact [email protected] with problems ------------=_1767802264-729813-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 15 Sep 2025 14:46:16 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2024-03-25) on buxtehude.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.2 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00, BODY_INCLUDES_PACKAGE,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF,HAS_PACKAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SHIPPING_ID,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 10; hammy, 104; neutral, 34; spammy, 0. spammytokens: hammytokens:0.000-+--H*RU:1c1c, 0.000-+--Hx-spam-relays-external:1c1c, 0.000-+--H*r:uucp, 0.000-+--H*r:local-rmail, 0.000-+--H*F:D*alteholz.de Return-path: <[email protected]> Received: from he006.server.alteholz.net ([2a01:4f8:1c1c:4223::1]:43586) by buxtehude.debian.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1uyAT9-00Do4M-25 for [email protected]; Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:46:16 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alteholz.de ; s=202105; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XXy91kwogK46KYSv9cKyYNb8R9HDzUxCQPltuWNeGGQ=; b=b/SRseL0+tXsSLh4CZqfVGQkf/ f1NsZqbsMM/bPZldv6ade7Zv2Vo5dGVqdHOAuVNJKm9R50X9PfYGJfOoZA1nehLwV+t65sul/gf8Q gUl21qnzuDVx5fStvRgOs5gMGN/xUoo7TE6Qs5Q7ujWNndvA5Hsy0hRw2+2vhTTSO0Lk=; Received: from uucp by he006.server.alteholz.net with local-rmail (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1uyADW-0005Lg-7F for [email protected]; Mon, 15 Sep 2025 16:30:06 +0200 Received: from debian (helo=localhost) by postfach.intern.alteholz.me with local-esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1uyAA1-001Rwx-2W for [email protected]; Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:26:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:26:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Thorsten Alteholz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: advice for using /var/lock (which is a link to /run/lock) (#1110981) Message-ID: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Delivered-To: [email protected] Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal Hi, I am a bit stuck with #1110981 and need your advice on how to proceed. Due to a change in systemd, the directory /run/lock is no longer world writable, but uucp uses this directory to create its lock files (as it is documented in FHS). As you can see in #1110981 there already is a complaint from a user that uucp no longer works. The corresponding bug #1110980 in systemd was marked as "wontfix". So what do you recommend how to go on from here? Change Debian policy (as asked in #1111839), revert the change in systemd, find a Debian wide solution or let every package maintainer implement their own solution? Thorsten Relevant bugs up to now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110981 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110980 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1111839 ------------=_1767802264-729813-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 1115317-done) by bugs.debian.org; 7 Jan 2026 16:09:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2024-03-25) on buxtehude.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.1 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, FROMDEVELOPER,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,PGPSIGNATURE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 35; hammy, 149; neutral, 14; spammy, 1. spammytokens:0.987-1--formalized hammytokens:0.000-+--H*ct:application, 0.000-+--H*ct:protocol, 0.000-+--H*ct:micalg, 0.000-+--H*ct:signed, 0.000-+--H*ct:pgp-signature Return-path: <[email protected]> Received: from mail-qv1-xf29.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::f29]:43343) by buxtehude.debian.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_X25519__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_128_GCM:128) (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from <[email protected]>) id 1vdVnI-0030Lf-0j for [email protected]; Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:49:57 +0000 Received: by mail-qv1-xf29.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-888310b91c5so6734516d6.1 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 07 Jan 2026 07:49:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1767800994; x=1768405794; darn=bugs.debian.org; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :sender:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=DwX4HRrAecypuqcOQGAKPATUAwJf2o1xz1aJDLtXO4I=; b=YT35nBF+FyBUl81aEI9zVKP4oMZnRxIaA+i8FN+P1ZXIQHn+X34bQWb2oAISqvPyYk 5AcGnT2qxYfaHp66grZ8nP/OI9cEBHdklZ6/s1zoDu92dkJZ/HmtwJS4KSLKHLceAuhF X7WMkJKpcI6DcToGDsbQP24DSmkQ1SLe6g0RwsFtaV1T4zE9WwnuC9TpkmFy/p0bbpQh 0dsd5EOGDVYssLa7GRx06ASehVMTM9Pk4ELPAwg+vMGLmWoIt/Yv6Un1eNvvdroiHyle g/4cYkClDDtzBbmuEgGztdNcjZv/cTSc3aDtwdO3KjGWF48X/U/CAJPKMK/tYFrIdrbz auAg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1767800994; x=1768405794; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :sender:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=DwX4HRrAecypuqcOQGAKPATUAwJf2o1xz1aJDLtXO4I=; b=ZqT1/3eDT2X0i8sNtXAFoYMJ7v1M7WGBtYl0dEgxg0LWyBiPmfvmC/KpGcgEC6egmZ ypv19V7lxNlh0oZCl0nE1NIKHUEvjeSV7vscW2hrfYRZZwTq5kOuQIwvYdgruJgfATQl rHdYH2IQ39wMNMYtDs2bUKaG2qumpgTfPo4a7UJyJeXRxGgsUGJs4o1GNn3ARSyxAj/i jruhFhWgu3WcRAqeVwd57pppsx2D3JPs6WOOBSR/uA1kQacU0FBQELWm21pKkfhtCbgX clve+Ua4JtfLgcSruz/BjmLozwCvNE+RCettPnyboc8xQiRpDkXcChU0yk1l1p0+IH8j 9DxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy42EhAbSAGBpeNUEgH5SUhW36Idih5+j/nM7kxhKsE4tyy8a60 P1xbwvzvMOmSJEMaZyasH69WW1Yz4zCa7DW9prnnhAFd04XazSLn8DiD4Q0yTLCFgBk= X-Gm-Gg: AY/fxX4ZaToDxMc8HFIgKf3jau2HPDHrXMU8stQ5JrKBGreaVUDRJhOOr733pqfj7S+ em6qfJDTNKWG1Q9r7RXPkimAfcGdeycH91BVjaM0dwYwl4n1aTb/n6sEAIjN0XowXOvoULeu5MQ jypO4R+8EiHwo+ayfg9KVQjpbA7g0fYGIi23k/lpnreuOKTvYdWRSu9+PJrCO4LSQC9F5LSO+m0 bBjSSuhxFIjIltrpvmwlBgbH62LIZ3jdGmvYODK4Qm39ll1tUDvK5g0TpFeNnRBB18MkP7BVJ36 SUzjxkhWwvN2QvrSNPd6SDrsBBTvsz3YsPDBbqGiw5F3pnb2ickXSlizLCu0h4LGI7Da6XgQZkS H/SCr/etFcv+wh4HP8YRcfgAr6S6ZL3dAesEvNOhQf43+JPFzUJSSDkCx/wVaOMP+4DDMu47BZP y1IGvrBnz67jFgqZLo0WzBWh/5vRvKGLXPY8Sn0SmkgBwJmcRPebi9Z5+BX+iJiXU50uahDsuW2 qonJ7bjuoW45ntLDL+vBaHWHwf3pLyMqh5bsdjcG82UhwABjII4Xf4Aqq6n7pCo1IPVG23r X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGHbpFEhGOYSxb7s1L/kKZzbB5OHev1Va3PrQZUN8OoDcoaWXQgvcPJQaXEg3G/M67VIogr9A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:411:b0:888:4930:7989 with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-89083d0d91bmr43674556d6.36.1767800993571; Wed, 07 Jan 2026 07:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mynydd.haus (pool-100-15-234-78.washdc.fios.verizon.net. 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