Re: sddm: incongruous logo appearance on idle screen with ceratopsian

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If it is in the svg file itself as opposed to a separate element, I wonder
if there's a version control issue when I handed it off. I tried just about
every logo placement before removing it entirely from the final version.
Every placement landed in an awkward spot for some DE's login screen; I
couldn't find a consistently good option.  (The logo background is a
mystery, though.)

It is easy for me to cut a new version (without a logo, or with a
consistent background on the logo), but I am not sure whether the rest of
the change process is that simple. I will defer to the experts on that.

Elise


On Tue, May 27, 2025, 5:57 PM James Addison <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi desktop developers,
>
> This may or may not be a bug - it's a question of aesthetics, I think.
> When using SDDM as my login manager on Debian trixie, I felt that on
> the login idle screen -- which appears after ~60 seconds of inactivity
> -- the Debian name and logo and in the lower third of the display
> seems kind of incongruous to me.
>
> In particular, the black background behind the logo and text seems in
> contrast to the gradually-transitioned colour styles elsewhere.
> Another issue that perhaps exaggerages this is that the padding on the
> left and right of the logo container box both seem quite narrow.
>
> Some of this is configured using a theme.conf file provided by the
> sddm-theme-debian-breeze package.  Unfortunately I do not think that
> simply making the black logo background transparent would solve the
> problem, because the results might provide low text-colour contrast
> (gray text on the light-ish blue text in particular).
>
> The mailing list rules note no large attachments; and indeed a ~296K
> attachment did not appear to reach the mailing list during my previous
> attempt to post here.  As such, please find a screenshot uploaded to
> my fork of plasma-desktop on Salsa:
>
> https://salsa.debian.org/jayaddison/plasma-desktop/-/blob/13e4bda4532e4ec278a6bafbf28e6c423799010d/debian/uploads/sddm-debian-logo-idle.png
>
> (NB: to capture this, I used xwd with a tiny bash script that sleeps
> for 90 seconds or so, run while su'd to the sddm user from a tty.  the
> sleep is required because switching back from the tty to the X console
> and then leaving it idle is necessary for a successful repro and
> capture of the idle screen)
>
> Regards,
> James
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">If it is in the svg file itself as opposed to a separate =
element, I wonder if there&#39;s a version control issue when I handed it o=
ff. I tried just about every logo placement before removing it entirely fro=
m the final version. Every placement landed in an awkward spot for some DE&=
#39;s login screen; I couldn&#39;t find a consistently good option.=C2=A0 (=
The logo background is a mystery, though.)<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">It is easy for me to cut a new version (without a logo, or wit=
h a consistent background on the logo), but I am not sure whether the rest =
of the change process is that simple. I will defer to the experts on that.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Elise=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 27, 2025, 5:57 PM Ja=
mes Addison &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi desktop developers,=
<br>
<br>
This may or may not be a bug - it&#39;s a question of aesthetics, I think.<=
br>
When using SDDM as my login manager on Debian trixie, I felt that on<br>
the login idle screen -- which appears after ~60 seconds of inactivity<br>
-- the Debian name and logo and in the lower third of the display<br>
seems kind of incongruous to me.<br>
<br>
In particular, the black background behind the logo and text seems in<br>
contrast to the gradually-transitioned colour styles elsewhere.<br>
Another issue that perhaps exaggerages this is that the padding on the<br>
left and right of the logo container box both seem quite narrow.<br>
<br>
Some of this is configured using a theme.conf file provided by the<br>
sddm-theme-debian-breeze package.=C2=A0 Unfortunately I do not think that<b=
r>
simply making the black logo background transparent would solve the<br>
problem, because the results might provide low text-colour contrast<br>
(gray text on the light-ish blue text in particular).<br>
<br>
The mailing list rules note no large attachments; and indeed a ~296K<br>
attachment did not appear to reach the mailing list during my previous<br>
attempt to post here.=C2=A0 As such, please find a screenshot uploaded to<b=
r>
my fork of plasma-desktop on Salsa:<br>
<a href=3D"https://salsa.debian.org/jayaddison/plasma-desktop/-/blob/13e4bd=
a4532e4ec278a6bafbf28e6c423799010d/debian/uploads/sddm-debian-logo-idle.png=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://salsa.debian.org/=
jayaddison/plasma-desktop/-/blob/13e4bda4532e4ec278a6bafbf28e6c423799010d/d=
ebian/uploads/sddm-debian-logo-idle.png</a><br>
<br>
(NB: to capture this, I used xwd with a tiny bash script that sleeps<br>
for 90 seconds or so, run while su&#39;d to the sddm user from a tty.=C2=A0=
 the<br>
sleep is required because switching back from the tty to the X console<br>
and then leaving it idle is necessary for a successful repro and<br>
capture of the idle screen)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
James<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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