Re: sddm: incongruous logo appearance on idle screen with ceratopsian

James Addison <[email protected]> Sat, 31 May 2025 20:36:04 +0100
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Thanks again - I've installed the updated desktop-base package from
unstable, and yes: the sddm login idle screen now looks great.

Cheers,
James

On Fri, May 30, 2025, 23:01 Aur=C3=A9lien COUDERC <libre-GGH/[email protected]> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the fix, the package should reach unstable in the c=
oming
> hours.
>
> Happy hacking,
> --
> Aur=C3=A9lien
>
> Le mercredi 28 mai 2025, 10:48:53 heure d=E2=80=99=C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=E2=80=
=99Europe centrale James
> Addison a =C3=A9crit :
> > Thanks both for checking this (and thank you Elise for creating the
> > theme!), and thank you Aur=C3=A9lien for figuring out that fix.  I'll w=
atch
> > for the upload (desktop-base package, I think?) and will re-test when
> > that becomes available.
> >
> > Regards,
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, 28 May 2025 at 06:57, Aur=C3=A9lien COUDERC <libre-GGH/[email protected]> =
wrote:
> > >
> > > It's an issue with the rendering of the logo SVG file in the Qt stack=
.
> > >
> > > Ungrouping / regrouping the element and saving in inkscape made it
> work.
> > >
> > > I have a fixed version pending upload.
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy hacking,
> > > --
> > > Aur=C3=A9lien
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 28 mai 2025 01:34:25 GMT+02:00, PC Couper <[email protected]> a
> =C3=A9crit :
> > >>
> > >> If it is in the svg file itself as opposed to a separate element, I
> wonder if there's a version control issue when I handed it off. I tried
> just about every logo placement before removing it entirely from the fina=
l
> version. Every placement landed in an awkward spot for some DE's login
> screen; I couldn't find a consistently good option.  (The logo background
> is a mystery, though.)
> > >>
> > >> It is easy for me to cut a new version (without a logo, or with a
> consistent background on the logo), but I am not sure whether the rest of
> the change process is that simple. I will defer to the experts on that.
> > >>
> > >> Elise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 27, 2025, 5:57 PM James Addison <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi desktop developers,
> > >>>
> > >>> This may or may not be a bug - it's a question of aesthetics, I
> think.
> > >>> When using SDDM as my login manager on Debian trixie, I felt that o=
n
> > >>> the login idle screen -- which appears after ~60 seconds of
> inactivity
> > >>> -- the Debian name and logo and in the lower third of the display
> > >>> seems kind of incongruous to me.
> > >>>
> > >>> In particular, the black background behind the logo and text seems =
in
> > >>> contrast to the gradually-transitioned colour styles elsewhere.
> > >>> Another issue that perhaps exaggerages this is that the padding on
> the
> > >>> left and right of the logo container box both seem quite narrow.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some of this is configured using a theme.conf file provided by the
> > >>> sddm-theme-debian-breeze package.  Unfortunately I do not think tha=
t
> > >>> simply making the black logo background transparent would solve the
> > >>> problem, because the results might provide low text-colour contrast
> > >>> (gray text on the light-ish blue text in particular).
> > >>>
> > >>> The mailing list rules note no large attachments; and indeed a ~296=
K
> > >>> attachment did not appear to reach the mailing list during my
> previous
> > >>> attempt to post here.  As such, please find a screenshot uploaded t=
o
> > >>> my fork of plasma-desktop on Salsa:
> > >>>
> https://salsa.debian.org/jayaddison/plasma-desktop/-/blob/13e4bda4532e4ec=
278a6bafbf28e6c423799010d/debian/uploads/sddm-debian-logo-idle.png
> > >>>
> > >>> (NB: to capture this, I used xwd with a tiny bash script that sleep=
s
> > >>> for 90 seconds or so, run while su'd to the sddm user from a tty.
> the
> > >>> sleep is required because switching back from the tty to the X
> console
> > >>> and then leaving it idle is necessary for a successful repro and
> > >>> capture of the idle screen)
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> James
> > >>>
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Thanks again - I&#39;ve installed the updated deskto=
p-base package from unstable, and yes: the sddm login idle screen now looks=
 great.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers,</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">James<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container=
" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 30, 2025, =
23:01 Aur=C3=A9lien COUDERC &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:libre-GGH/[email protected]">libre@c=
oucouf.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the fix, the package should reach unstable=
 in the coming hours.<br>
<br>
Happy hacking,<br>
--<br>
Aur=C3=A9lien<br>
<br>
Le mercredi 28 mai 2025, 10:48:53 heure d=E2=80=99=C3=A9t=C3=A9 d=E2=80=99E=
urope centrale James Addison a =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; Thanks both for checking this (and thank you Elise for creating the<br=
>
&gt; theme!), and thank you Aur=C3=A9lien for figuring out that fix.=C2=A0 =
I&#39;ll watch<br>
&gt; for the upload (desktop-base package, I think?) and will re-test when<=
br>
&gt; that becomes available.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; James<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On Wed, 28 May 2025 at 06:57, Aur=C3=A9lien COUDERC &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:libre-GGH/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">libre-GGH/[email protected]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; It&#39;s an issue with the rendering of the logo SVG file in the =
Qt stack.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Ungrouping / regrouping the element and saving in inkscape made i=
t work.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I have a fixed version pending upload.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Happy hacking,<br>
&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt; &gt; Aur=C3=A9lien<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Le 28 mai 2025 01:34:25 GMT+02:00, PC Couper &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]=
om</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; If it is in the svg file itself as opposed to a separate elem=
ent, I wonder if there&#39;s a version control issue when I handed it off. =
I tried just about every logo placement before removing it entirely from th=
e final version. Every placement landed in an awkward spot for some DE&#39;=
s login screen; I couldn&#39;t find a consistently good option.=C2=A0 (The =
logo background is a mystery, though.)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; It is easy for me to cut a new version (without a logo, or wi=
th a consistent background on the logo), but I am not sure whether the rest=
 of the change process is that simple. I will defer to the experts on that.=
<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Elise<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, May 27, 2025, 5:57 PM James Addison &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jay@jp-hostin=
g.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi desktop developers,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; This may or may not be a bug - it&#39;s a question of aes=
thetics, I think.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; When using SDDM as my login manager on Debian trixie, I f=
elt that on<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; the login idle screen -- which appears after ~60 seconds =
of inactivity<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; -- the Debian name and logo and in the lower third of the=
 display<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; seems kind of incongruous to me.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; In particular, the black background behind the logo and t=
ext seems in<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; contrast to the gradually-transitioned colour styles else=
where.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Another issue that perhaps exaggerages this is that the p=
adding on the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; left and right of the logo container box both seem quite =
narrow.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Some of this is configured using a theme.conf file provid=
ed by the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; sddm-theme-debian-breeze package.=C2=A0 Unfortunately I d=
o not think that<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; simply making the black logo background transparent would=
 solve the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; problem, because the results might provide low text-colou=
r contrast<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; (gray text on the light-ish blue text in particular).<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The mailing list rules note no large attachments; and ind=
eed a ~296K<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; attachment did not appear to reach the mailing list durin=
g my previous<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; attempt to post here.=C2=A0 As such, please find a screen=
shot uploaded to<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; my fork of plasma-desktop on Salsa:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://salsa.debian.org/jayaddison/plasma-des=
ktop/-/blob/13e4bda4532e4ec278a6bafbf28e6c423799010d/debian/uploads/sddm-de=
bian-logo-idle.png" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/salsa.debian.org/jayaddison/plasma-desktop/-/blob/13e4bda4532e4ec278a6bafb=
f28e6c423799010d/debian/uploads/sddm-debian-logo-idle.png</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; (NB: to capture this, I used xwd with a tiny bash script =
that sleeps<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; for 90 seconds or so, run while su&#39;d to the sddm user=
 from a tty.=C2=A0 the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; sleep is required because switching back from the tty to =
the X console<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and then leaving it idle is necessary for a successful re=
pro and<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; capture of the idle screen)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; James<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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