Re: End of updates for Emdebian Grip

Hello,

The cross building toolchain and the root filesystem generation are the 
most critical parts for me.

For many embedded systems, developers use machines with a different 
architecture than for the target, typically build=amd64 and 
target=armhf. An up-to-date easy to install cross-toolchain is a 
minimum, but a cross-build system is far better. It allow to directly 
produce Debian packages that can be added to the list of packages to be 
installed by the root filesystem generator. In a ideal world, the 
kernel, bootloader, device tree, and system configuration would be nice 
to be also packages passed to the root filesystem generator, so it will 
yield a fully ready to use image, without additional manual settings.

Achieving those goals are not easy, I am not naive. But this match 
somewhat the goals that projects like openemedded, yocto, and buildroot, 
to name a few of them, provides to there users. But none of them are 
build on the ground of a high quality and widely tester distribution 
like Debian. In addition there all basically require to recompile 
everything instead of using already available packages, wasting a lot of 
time. What I want is a process where I can develop and test a Debian 
packaged applications on a standard PC and then just add it to the 
cross-build system to get it integrated cleanly into the target 
filesystem. Linaro is actually the most close project I know that match 
what I want, but is heavy rely on Ubuntu specifics dependencies.

Best Regards,
Jean-Christian



Le 31. 07. 14 19:29, Neil Williams a écrit :
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:43:18 +0200
> Ermis Papastefanakis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> If i understand correctly the Emdebian projet will stop after Grip
>> 3.1 (the equivalent of Debian Squeeze) is phased out?
> The Emdebian project is wider than just Emdebian Grip but there's a
> separate amount of work to get the other large section - toolchains -
> integrated into Debian. Once that is complete, it will be interesting
> to see what people want from Emdebian.
>
> Emdebian Grip 3.1 is based on Wheezy, not squeeze.
>
> http://emdebian.org/News/2013/20130615.html
>
> Emdebian Grip 3.1 will not be worth keeping once Debian drops Wheezy
> as oldstable. Wheezy is currently Debian stable - the Jessie freeze
> starts in November this year, release at end of 2014 / beginning of 2015
> - this is the point at which wheezy becomes old-stable. At some point in
> probably 2016, Debian will drop wheezy from the mirrors in preparation
> for the release freeze of Jessie+1 (to make room for Jessie to become
> oldstable). By that time, I don't expect anyone to still be wanting Grip
> 3.1 or Wheezy.
>


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