Re: Ogre3d threatened with removal from testing, through freeimage
Flavien Bridault <[email protected]> Sat, 13 Dec 2025 17:44:49 +0100
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Fernandez Montecelo" <[email protected]>, Simon Schmeisser <[email protected]>, Bret Curtis <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Ogre3d threatened with removal from testing, through freeimage References: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> --------------IKBfbI4NX4c2sz49raZigP3t Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------96XmP4PZFgrlPH7L3PHQTctZ" --------------96XmP4PZFgrlPH7L3PHQTctZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGV5IEFudG9pbmUsDQoNCkkgY2FuJ3QgdGVsbCB3aGF0IGlzIHRoZSBwbGFuIHVwc3RyZWFt IGJ1dCBJIGNhbid0IHNoYXJlIGEgYml0IGFib3V0IG91ciANCmV4cGVyaWVuY2UuDQoNCklu IFNpZ2h0IHdlIG5vIGxvbmdlciByZWx5IG9uIEZyZWVJbWFnZSBzaW5jZSAyMDE4IGJlY2F1 c2UgYXQgdGhpcyB0aW1lLCANCml0IHdhcyBhbHJlYWR5IHBhaW5mdWwgdG8gbWFpbnRhaW4g YW5kIGJ1aWx0IGFsbCBvdXIgZGVwZW5kZW5jaWVzIG9uIGFsbCANCnBsYXRmb3Jtcy4gU28g bm93IHdlIG9ubHkgbG9hZCBkZHMgdGV4dHVyZSB3aXRoIHRoZSBzdGFuZGFyZCByZXNvdXJj ZSANCmxvYWRlciBvZiBPZ3JlLiBJbiBteSBvcGluaW9uIGFuZCBleHBlcmllbmNlLCBpdCBp cyBhbnl3YXkgYSBiZXR0ZXIgDQpwcmFjdGljZSBmb3IgYSAzRCByZW5kZXJlciBiZWNhdXNl IHlvdSBjYW4gYmVuZWZpdCBkaXJlY3RseSBmcm9tIHRoZSANCmNvbXByZXNzaW9uIChEWFQg Zm9ybWF0KSwgd2hpY2ggcmVkdWNlcyBtZW1vcnkgc2l6ZSwgYmFuZHdpZHRoLCBldGMuLi4N Cg0KVG8gc3VtIHVwLCBpdCBjYW4gYmUgYSB0b3RhbGx5IHZhbGlkIG9wdGlvbiB0byBzaW1w bHkgbm90IGJ1aWxkIHRoZSANCnBsdWdpbiBhbmQgc2hpcCBPZ3JlIHdpdGhvdXQgaXQuDQoN Cg0KKkRyLiBGbGF2aWVuIEJSSURBVUxUKg0KRGlyZWN0b3Igb2YgU29mdHdhcmUgRGV2ZWxv cG1lbnQNCklSQ0FEIEZyYW5jZSAmIElSQ0FEIEFmcmljYQ0KDQpmbGF2aWVuLmJyaWRhdWx0 QGlyY2FkLmZyIDxtYWlsdG86Zmxhdmllbi5icmlkYXVsdC1sb3VjaGV6QGlyY2FkLmZyPg0K DQoJCUlSQ0FEIEZyYW5jZQ0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5pcmNhZC5mci8NCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaXJj YWQuYWZyaWNhLyA8aHR0cDovL3d3dy5pcmNhZC5mci8+DQoNClN1aXZleiBsJ0lSQ0FEIHN1 ciBGYWNlYm9vayANCjxodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZhY2Vib29rLmNvbS9wYWdlcy9JUkNBRC8xOTM3 ODUyNzM5OTAxNDE+DQoNCipJUkNBRCBGcmFuY2UqDQpIw7RwaXRhdXggVW5pdmVyc2l0YWly ZXMgLSAxLCBwbGFjZSBkZSBsJ0jDtHBpdGFsIC0gNjcwOTEgU3RyYXNib3VyZyBDZWRleCAN Ci0gRlJBTkNFDQoNCkxlIDEzLzEyLzIwMjUgw6AgMDk6NTcsIEFudG9pbmUgTGUgR29uaWRl YyBhIMOpY3JpdMKgOg0KPiBBdHRlbnRpb24gISBDZSBtZXNzYWdlIGEgw6l0w6kgZW52b3nD qSBkZXB1aXMgbCdleHTDqXJpZXVyIGRlIHZvdHJlIG9yZ2FuaXNhdGlvbi4NCj4NCj4gZnJl ZWltYWdlIGlzIGdvaW5nIHRvIGdldCByZW1vdmVkIGZyb20gdGVzdGluZzpodHRwczovL2V1 LWNlbnRyYWwtMS5wcm90ZWN0aW9uLnNvcGhvcy5jb20/ZD1kZWJpYW4ub3JnJnU9YUhSMGNI TTZMeTlpZFdkekxtUmxZbWxoYmk1dmNtY3ZNVEV5TVRreE1nPT0maT1OalF4TkRkallqYzNP V0UzWm1Rek1UUXlaRGc0WVRjdyZ0PWMyUnJhSEZSTVdWM1ZHWTNZVzlOT0RkWE9XWktNRTFU Y1ZwSFRVVnpaV2RQVFVoeFEzUmtLekJwTkQwPSZoPWExZWVjMWExODc5NDRkYTNiMDU4YWQ4 NjEzMjZkMzIwJnM9QVZOUFVFaFVUME5GVGtOU1dWQlVTVmJ0VkZKNm1sYUtNVDNRdHZ0YXpF clZSdGFoTlhQRF9yNGVJSEdCaFI4RVpRDQo+DQo+IFRoaXMgaXMgZ29pbmcgdG8gY2F1c2Ug YSByZW1vdmFsIG9mIE9ncmUzZCwgdGhhdCBidWlsZC1kZXBlbmRzIG9uIGl0Lg0KPiBBbmQg YXMgYSBjYXNjYWRpbmcgZWZmZXQsIHRoaXMgc2hvdWxkIGxlYWQgdG8gYSByZW1vdmFsIG9m IG15Z3VpIGFuZCBPcGVuTVcuDQo+DQo+IEFueW9uZSBoZXJlIGlzIGluIGNvbnRhY3Qgd2l0 aCBPZ3JlM2QgdXBzdHJlYW0sDQo+IHRvIGVuc3VyZSB0aGV5IGFyZSBhd2FyZSBvZiB0aGUg cG9vciBzdGF0ZSBvZiBmcmVlaW1hZ2UgYW5kIHBsYW4gdG8gbWlncmF0ZSBhd2F5IGZyb20g aXQ/DQo= --------------96XmP4PZFgrlPH7L3PHQTctZ Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------rUDue0czIQiRP4rgZwtnkF0B" --------------rUDue0czIQiRP4rgZwtnkF0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF= -8"> </head> <body> <p>Hey Antoine,</p> <p>I can't tell what is the plan upstream but I can't share a bit about our experience.</p> <p>In Sight we no longer rely on FreeImage since 2018 because at this time, it was already painful to maintain and built all our dependencies on all platforms. So now we only load dds texture with the standard resource loader of Ogre. In my opinion and experience, it is anyway a better practice for a 3D renderer because you can benefit directly from the compression (DXT format), which reduces memory size, bandwidth, etc...</p> <p>To sum up, it can be a totally valid option to simply not build the plugin and ship Ogre without it.=C2=A0</p> <div class=3D"moz-signature"> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DU= TF-8"> <br> <table cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica; font-size:13px; color:#6666= 66"> <tbody> <tr valign=3D"top"> <td style=3D"white-space:nowrap; padding-right:20px"> <span style=3D"font-size:18px"><b>Dr. Flavien BRIDAULT</b></spa= n><br> Director of Software Development<br> IRCAD France & IRCAD Africa<br> <br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:#37D; text-decoration:none">flavien.bridau= [email protected]</a><br> <br> </td> <td width=3D"1" style=3D"background:#DDDDDD; font-size:1px">=C2= =A0</td> <td align=3D"center" style=3D"padding:0 20px"> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ircad.fr/" style=3D"color:#37D; text-decoration:none"> <img src=3D"cid:[email protected]" border=3D"= 0" height=3D"50" alt=3D"IRCAD France"><br> http://www.ircad.fr/<br> http://www.ircad.africa/ </a> <br> <br> Suivez l'IRCAD sur=C2=A0 <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/IRCAD/193785273990141"><img src=3D"cid:[email protected]" alt=3D"Facebook" title=3D"Facebook" style=3D"vertical-align:middle; margin-bottom:2px" align=3D"absmiddle" border=3D"0"></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan=3D"4" height=3D"10">=C2=A0</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan=3D"4" height=3D"1" style=3D"font-size:1px; background:#DDDDDD"><br> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan=3D"4" align=3D"center" style=3D"font-size:11px; padding-top:10px"><b>IRCAD France<= /b><br> H=C3=B4pitaux Universitaires - 1, place de l'H=C3=B4pital -= 67091 Strasbourg Cedex - FRANCE</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Le 13/12/2025 =C3=A0 09:57, Antoine Le= Gonidec a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:[email protected].= fr"> <pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"moz-quote-pre">Attention ! Ce message a =C3= =A9t=C3=A9 envoy=C3=A9 depuis l'ext=C3=A9rieur de votre organisation. freeimage is going to get removed from testing: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-= freetext" href=3D"https://eu-central-1.protection.sophos.com?d=3Ddebian.o= rg&u=3DaHR0cHM6Ly9idWdzLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvMTEyMTkxMg=3D=3D&i=3DNjQxN= DdjYjc3OWE3ZmQzMTQyZDg4YTcw&t=3Dc2RraHFRMWV3VGY3YW9NODdXOWZKME1TcVpHT= UVzZWdPTUhxQ3RkKzBpND0=3D&h=3Da1eec1a187944da3b058ad861326d320&s=3D= AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVbtVFJ6mlaKMT3QtvtazErVRtahNXPD_r4eIHGBhR8EZQ">https= ://eu-central-1.protection.sophos.com?d=3Ddebian.org&u=3DaHR0cHM6Ly9i= dWdzLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvMTEyMTkxMg=3D=3D&i=3DNjQxNDdjYjc3OWE3ZmQzMTQyZDg4= YTcw&t=3Dc2RraHFRMWV3VGY3YW9NODdXOWZKME1TcVpHTUVzZWdPTUhxQ3RkKzBpND0=3D= &h=3Da1eec1a187944da3b058ad861326d320&s=3DAVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVb= tVFJ6mlaKMT3QtvtazErVRtahNXPD_r4eIHGBhR8EZQ</a> This is going to cause a removal of Ogre3d, that build-depends on it. And as a cascading effet, this should lead to a removal of mygui and Open= MW. Anyone here is in contact with Ogre3d upstream, to ensure they are aware of the poor state of freeimage and plan to migra= te away from it? </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------rUDue0czIQiRP4rgZwtnkF0B Content-Type: image/png; name="WXE60rE83E3qS07F.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="WXE60rE83E3qS07F.png" Content-Id: <[email protected]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAH0AAAAyCAYAAABxjtScAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9i ZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAyJpVFh0WE1MOmNvbS5hZG9iZS54bXAAAAAAADw/eHBhY2tl dCBiZWdpbj0i77u/IiBpZD0iVzVNME1wQ2VoaUh6cmVTek5UY3prYzlkIj8+IDx4OnhtcG1l dGEgeG1sbnM6eD0iYWRvYmU6bnM6bWV0YS8iIHg6eG1wdGs9IkFkb2JlIFhNUCBDb3JlIDUu MC1jMDYxIDY0LjE0MDk0OSwgMjAxMC8xMi8wNy0xMDo1NzowMSAgICAgICAgIj4gPHJkZjpS REYgeG1sbnM6cmRmPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8xOTk5LzAyLzIyLXJkZi1zeW50YXgt bnMjIj4gPHJkZjpEZXNjcmlwdGlvbiByZGY6YWJvdXQ9IiIgeG1sbnM6eG1wPSJodHRwOi8v bnMuYWRvYmUuY29tL3hhcC8xLjAvIiB4bWxuczp4bXBNTT0iaHR0cDovL25zLmFkb2JlLmNv 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