Fwd: License Update Required for "Micropolis"
Bruno Kleinert <[email protected]> Sat, 14 Feb 2026 13:13:34 +0100
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--=-3vlvOKit7bOw0hSXbmAY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-vgc4wCB6ZE/YM6o4OwVG" --=-vgc4wCB6ZE/YM6o4OwVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, did anyone else receive this E-Mail below on the micropolis package? If so, is anyone already working on this? -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Von: Timo Ritter <[email protected]> An: Bruno Fuddl Kleinert <[email protected]> Betreff: License Update Required for "Micropolis" Datum: 14.02.2026 00:01:27 > Dear Mr. Kleinert, >=20 > I hope you are doing well. >=20 > I'm writing you regarding the "micropolis" Debian package. I tried=20 > contacting Ms. Miriam Ruiz yesterday, but my mail to=20 > [email protected] bounced. So I am now contacting you. >=20 > You probably missed a prior trademark agreement between the company=20 > Micropolis and the upstream authors. The update requires the project to= =20 > add an additional "license note" to the game's repository and any=20 > associated websites. But no worries - here is a todo: >=20 >=20 > Action Requested > ---------------- > My company politely asks to please update the Debian.org package README,= =20 > the manpage and related websites: >=20 > https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/micropolis/micropolis.6.en.html > https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/micropolis-activity > (and additional outlets you know better than me, if any) >=20 > to include the following license note (and the full license text linked= =20 > below) as soon as possible: >=20 > "The name/term "MICROPOLIS" is a registered trademark of Micropolis GmbH= =20 > (Micropolis Corporation, the "licensor") and is licensed here to the=20 > authors/publishers of the "Micropolis" city simulation game and its=20 > source code (the project or "licensee(s)") as a courtesy of the owner." >=20 > And activate this attribution with a link to https://www.micropolis.com= =20 > and optionally to the license text, in case it resides in the repo. >=20 > For your reference, Don Hopkins=E2=80=99 incorporation of this notice can= be=20 > viewed here: > https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore >=20 >=20 > Background > ----------- > - The game's working title "Micropolis" is a trademark. Maxis switched= =20 > to "SimCity" for that reason back in the days. > - This trademark situation was inadvertently overlooked when the game=20 > was open-sourced. > - Micropolis GmbH's agreement with the upstream authors now requires a= =20 > clear license notice on all public distributions. > - You can read the full license text here: > https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicNam= eLicense.md >=20 >=20 >=20 > We appreciate your prompt attention to ensuring compliance. If you have= =20 > any questions or need further clarification, please let me know. >=20 >=20 > Best regards, > Timo Ritter > on behalf of Micropolis GmbH >=20 >=20 > --=20 > MICROPOLIS >=20 > Micropolis GmbH > Bismarckstr. 120 > 47057 Duisburg > Germany > Tel: +49 203 94100 989 > Fax: +49 203 94100 991 > email: [email protected] > Internet: https://www.micropolis.com/ >=20 > Micropolis=C2=AE is a registered trademark in many regions of the World. >=20 > ---------- > Important: This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you are > not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify us immediately; > you should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents > to any other person. Thank you. >=20 > Micropolis GmbH, Sitz der Gesellschaft ist Duisburg, Handelsregister > Amtsgericht Duisburg Nr. HRB38043, Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrung Daniel Ange= r > Micropolis Corporation, incorporated as GmbH in Duisburg, Germany, > executive director Daniel Anger The upstream author received a license by Micropolis GmbH to use and keep the name 'Micropolis' for the game. I got that from a related project of the author here=C2=A0https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore?tab=3Dreadme-ov-file= =C2=A0: [=E2=80=A6] At the time, "Micropolis" was also the name of a hard disk drive manufacturer. They eventually changed names and went out of business, but the company was recently restructured as Micropolis GmbH [1]. The owner is an old school hacker who was generous enough to grant the Micropolis Public Name License [2], which allows the game to use the name Micropolis under reasonable conditions. Many thanks to Micropolis GmbH for this courtesy -- check out their BBS primer [3], robotics primer [4], and data storage primer [5]. [=E2=80=A6] The granted license is here=C2=A0https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisP= ublicNameLicense.md =C2=A0and it's non-DFSG because of section 2: 2. Acknowledge that the name "MICROPOLIS" is a commercial registered trademark. While the use of the bare source code is governed by GPL, the name of the open source project is a trademark owned by a single company within the community and the owner grants a revocable license for the name "MICROPOLIS" to you, the user, for non-commercial use in relation with the source code and game. My preferred solution: Ask upstream to rename the game, e.g. MinCity (Micropolis Is Not simCity ;) ) Alternatives: 1. Move it to non-free and obey Micropolis GmbH's trademark license 2. Remove the game from Debian. But popcon says almost 270 installations, though! Opinions? Cheers, Fuddl [1] Micropolis GmbH https://www.micropolis.com/ [2] Micropolis Public Name License https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicN= ameLicense.md [3] BBS primer https://www.micropolis.com/micropolis-bbs-primer [4] robotics primer https://www.micropolis.com/micropolis-robotics-primer [5] data storage primer https://www.micropolis.com/micropolis-data-storage-primer --=-vgc4wCB6ZE/YM6o4OwVG Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style>pre,code,address { margin: 0px; } h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 { margin-top: 0.2em; margin-bottom: 0.2em; } ol,ul { margin-top: 0em; margin-bottom: 0em; } blockquote { margin-top: 0em; margin-bottom: 0em; } </style></head><body><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>did anyone else rece= ive this E-Mail below on the micropolis package? If so, is anyone already w= orking on this?</div><div><br></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0)= ; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Adwaita Sans"; font-style: n= ormal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal;= text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: no= rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -= webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">-------- Weitergelei= tete Nachricht --------</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color= : rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Adwaita Sans"; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-a= lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w= ord-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-= text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><b>Von</b>: Timo Ritter <= ;<a href=3D"mailto:Timo%20Ritter%20%[email protected]%3e" style=3D"c= olor: rgb(46, 52, 54);">[email protected]</a>></div><div style=3D"c= aret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Adwaita S= ans"; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;= letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transfor= m: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-colo= r: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: non= e;"><b>An</b>: Bruno Fuddl Kleinert <<a href=3D"mailto:Bruno%20Fuddl%20K= leinert%20%[email protected]%3e" style=3D"color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">fuddl@d= ebian.org</a>></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(= 0, 0, 0); font-family: "Adwaita Sans"; font-style: normal; font-v= ariant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-sp= acing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-text-s= troke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><b>Betreff</b>: License Update Re= quired for "Micropolis"</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color= : rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Adwaita Sans"; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-a= lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w= ord-spacing: 0px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-= text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><b>Datum</b>: 14.02.2026 00= :01:27</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f= ont-family: "Adwaita Sans"; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps= : normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text= -indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;= -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4); -webkit-text-stroke-width= : 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D= "margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>De= ar Mr. Kleinert,</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I hope you are doing well.</pre><= pre><br></pre><pre>I'm writing you regarding the "micropolis" Debian packag= e. I tried </pre><pre>contacting Ms. Miriam Ruiz yesterday, but my mail to = </pre><pre><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(46, = 52, 54);">[email protected]</a> bounced. So I am now contacting you.</pr= e><pre><br></pre><pre>You probably missed a prior trademark agreement betwe= en the company </pre><pre>Micropolis and the upstream authors. The update r= equires the project to </pre><pre>add an additional "license note" to the g= ame's repository and any </pre><pre>associated websites. But no worries - h= ere is a todo:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Action Requested</pr= e><pre>----------------</pre><pre>My company politely asks to please update= the Debian.org package README, </pre><pre>the manpage and related websites= :</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><a href=3D"https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/= micropolis/micropolis.6.en.html" style=3D"color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">https://= manpages.debian.org/unstable/micropolis/micropolis.6.en.html</a></pre><pre>= <a href=3D"https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/micropolis-activity" style= =3D"color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/micropolis= -activity</a></pre><pre>(and additional outlets you know better than me, if= any)</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>to include the following license note (and t= he full license text linked </pre><pre>below) as soon as possible:</pre><pr= e><br></pre><pre>"The name/term "MICROPOLIS" is a registered trademark of M= icropolis GmbH </pre><pre>(Micropolis Corporation, the "licensor") and is l= icensed here to the </pre><pre>authors/publishers of the "Micropolis" city = simulation game and its </pre><pre>source code (the project or "licensee(s)= ") as a courtesy of the owner."</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>And activate this = attribution with a link to <a href=3D"https://www.micropolis.com/" style=3D= "color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">https://www.micropolis.com</a> </pre><pre>and opt= ionally to the license text, in case it resides in the repo.</pre><pre><br>= </pre><pre>For your reference, Don Hopkins=E2=80=99 incorporation of this n= otice can be </pre><pre>viewed here:</pre><pre><a href=3D"https://github.co= m/SimHacker/MicropolisCore" style=3D"color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">https://githu= b.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>= Background</pre><pre>-----------</pre><pre>- The game's working title "Micr= opolis" is a trademark. Maxis switched </pre><pre>to "SimCity" for that rea= son back in the days.</pre><pre>- This trademark situation was inadvertentl= y overlooked when the game </pre><pre>was open-sourced.</pre><pre>- Micropo= lis GmbH's agreement with the upstream authors now requires a </pre><pre>cl= ear license notice on all public distributions.</pre><pre>- You can read th= e full license text here:</pre><pre><a href=3D"https://github.com/SimHacker= /MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicNameLicense.md" style=3D"color: r= gb(46, 52, 54);">https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/Micr= opolisPublicNameLicense.md</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br>= </pre><pre>We appreciate your prompt attention to ensuring compliance. If y= ou have </pre><pre>any questions or need further clarification, please let = me know.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Best regards,</pre><pre>Ti= mo Ritter</pre><pre>on behalf of Micropolis GmbH</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><= br></pre><pre>-- </pre><pre>MICROPOLIS</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Micropolis = GmbH</pre><pre>Bismarckstr. 120</pre><pre>47057 Duisburg</pre><pre>Germany<= /pre><pre>Tel: +49 203 94100 989</pre><pre>Fax: +49 203 94100 991</pre><pre= >email: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(46, 5= 2, 54);">[email protected]</a></pre><pre>Internet: <a href=3D"https://= www.micropolis.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(46, 52, 54);">https://www.micropol= is.com/</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Micropolis=C2=AE is a registered trade= mark in many regions of the World.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>----------</pre= ><pre>Important: This email is confidential and may be privileged. If you a= re</pre><pre>not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify us imm= ediately;</pre><pre>you should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disc= lose its contents</pre><pre>to any other person. Thank you.</pre><pre><br><= /pre><pre>Micropolis GmbH, Sitz der Gesellschaft ist Duisburg, Handelsregis= ter</pre><pre>Amtsgericht Duisburg Nr. HRB38043, Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrung= Daniel Anger</pre><pre>Micropolis Corporation, incorporated as GmbH in Dui= sburg, Germany,</pre><pre>executive director Daniel Anger</pre></blockquote= ><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><br></div><div>The upstream a= uthor received a license by Micropolis GmbH to use and keep the name 'Micro= polis' for the game. I got that from a related project of the author here&n= bsp;<a href=3D"https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore?tab=3Dreadme-ov-= file">https://github.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore?tab=3Dreadme-ov-file</a>&= nbsp;:</div><div><br></div><div>[=E2=80=A6]</div><div><div>At the time, "Mi= cropolis" was also the name of a hard disk drive=20 manufacturer. They eventually changed names and went out of business,=20 but the company was recently restructured as <a href=3D"https://www.micropo= lis.com" rel=3D"nofollow">Micropolis GmbH</a>. The owner is an old school h= acker who was generous enough to grant the <a href=3D"https://github.com/Si= mHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicNameLicense.md">Micropolis= Public Name License</a>, which allows the game to use the name Micropolis under reasonable=20 conditions. Many thanks to Micropolis GmbH for this courtesy -- check=20 out their <a href=3D"https://www.micropolis.com/micropolis-bbs-primer" rel= =3D"nofollow">BBS primer</a>, <a href=3D"https://www.micropolis.com/micropo= lis-robotics-primer" rel=3D"nofollow" class=3D"">robotics primer</a>, and <= a href=3D"https://www.micropolis.com/micropolis-data-storage-primer" rel=3D= "nofollow">data storage primer</a>.<br>[=E2=80=A6]</div></div><div><br></di= v><div>The granted license is here <a href=3D"https://github.com/SimHa= cker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicNameLicense.md">https://githu= b.com/SimHacker/MicropolisCore/blob/main/MicropolisPublicNameLicense.md</a>= and it's non-DFSG because of section 2:</div><div><br></div><div>2. A= cknowledge that the name "MICROPOLIS" is a commercial registered trademark.= While the use of the bare source code is governed by GPL, the name of the = open source project is a trademark owned by a single company within the com= munity and the owner grants a revocable license for the name "MICROPOLIS" t= o you, the user, for non-commercial use in relation with the source code an= d game.</div><div><br></div><div>My preferred solution:</div><div>Ask upstr= eam to rename the game, e.g. MinCity (Micropolis Is Not simCity ;) )</div><= div><br></div><div>Alternatives:</div><div>1. Move it to non-free and obey = Micropolis GmbH's trademark license</div><div>2. Remove the game from Debia= n. But popcon says almost 270 installations, though!</div><div><br></div><d= iv>Opinions?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Fuddl</div></body><= /html> --=-vgc4wCB6ZE/YM6o4OwVG-- --=-3vlvOKit7bOw0hSXbmAY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEbNBoYg3hPRuThXIzSwBpzPZSeEcFAmmQZu4ACgkQSwBpzPZS eEcfGw/7B7avNX7UCvWyl4K5PE2QVg8zu7k8GL/KU3fgjygPDLpiHP2An4LPYTTv jDdLkwstsbmBNfSJq29oNNJz3Mr+Rq4GCIwVyNYXJ7xJEAkPjBtgmti+LBLFH4et mW2twsWTeOndtyIgP+r868QPCpSmONvoeNt8EXcS0EjZwcPjURyqNCxELSnG+rcr PX+eC9YugtTUzp0atoyPOFf20ImdPRJqd31JaDrpEEru7UuUjpc2zEgERdTElN3b uupCQqfp4du11nzCNIv6vUOGUWt72LsTg9sg/o5d/uqTA6olW+U51Qh7cb31ZiHf Onmez0YUwacgD3yzNBZVMsFSeLwE9eSsEpqzw+qiwgrDdQ1KMaJpY+G1qMVzy3Ec rz9B9zuOkzJ6ZVrkB8xT1/FHhUYK6VxiRYeIP7dxeOk8tCtMHrOrNpoYQ+y7iV0J uaFWP5omhZl+OGW16ywMKaUdqAtP0FvqjONZ0kcoJSvFXAKAvqvuE7EEEn2ku02Q /T21GzUAo1YviOtaEvC7NefAKj3XZTstpu7l6mTYGM1hM+WDQRfS2QpMQ7XWGZi/ KCgHlzWDDoEot8Youg/i2W3d5tw/ui9edG5rsAjXEY5qthkSBoy+pUutgu7uGkaL vPkZ1KFFoZlbunVUMJ3qlcNIDSY6ueQyzVFu0qAYmDIcBZFyLJE= =35Yl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3vlvOKit7bOw0hSXbmAY--