Re: Concerning uniliateral decision making with respect to the coreutils package

Peter Pentchev <[email protected]> Wed, 1 Jul 2026 20:36:57 +0300

Newsgroups	gmane.linux.debian.devel.general
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On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 08:28:39PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 09:51:18AM -0700, Collin Funk wrote:
> > Julian Andres Klode <[email protected]> writes:
> > 
> > > Just for the record:
> > >
> > > I added busybox and toybox variants, and uploaded the package to
> > > experimental per Helmut's request as he wanted to explore those
> > > alternatives.
> > >
> > > Whether Debian wants to switch or not is not my decision. Debian
> > > has a procedure for making changes, which is the maintainer doing
> > > whatever the fuck they want and if anyone disagrees escalating to
> > > the CTTE if necessary. The maintainer chose to delegate that decision
> > > process to the mailing list which is their prerogative, but I do not
> > > have the means to start, lead, or even participate in discussions,
> > > so I offer the experiment that was requested, and if anyone wants
> > > to pursue this further that's on them to coordinate.
> > 
> > Just to for the record:
> > 
> > My issue is not at all with you adding variants, uutils or otherwise. My
> > issue is with you silent changing the "coreutils" package to be uutils
> > coreutils. Your message does nothing to address that point.
> 
> ...an experimental upload...
> ...for a specific purpose requested by another developer for a test...
> ...months ago, with no follow-up uploads or discussion afterwards...
> ...and with later uploads of the coreutils package that have absolutely
>    no trace of these changes...
> 
> ...so I would say this is *exactly* what Debian experimental is for -
> experiments that may never see another upload, ever, depending on
> how things turn out.

...and just in case it wasn't clear from my message, let me spell it out:

From the beginning of this thread, I was pretty much sure that this was
NOT any conspiracy to, secretly, without discussion, replace Debian's
coreutils package.

After Julian Andres's message, I became 100% certain of that.

G'luck,
Peter

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