Re: need for open-minded help with popularity-contest with systemd timer

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On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 12:34:23AM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
>Systemd explicitly does not want to follow Unix semantics, so we=20
>cannot assume that Unix semantics will hold unless there is an=20
>explicit mechanism for them, and we are seeing breakage precisely=20
>where we're using a Unix tool inside a non-Unix environment.

It changes the semantics but the creator of the unit chooses how
hardened it should be.

I do have had the same issues with uucico calling systemd. uucico
spawns uuxqt which may linger around processing jobs. Strict
systemd kills all uuxqt when all data has been transferred.

Solved it by giving uuxqt more time to finish its job:

TimeoutStopSec=3D120s

I remember having a different solution by instructing systemd to not=20
kill the whole cgroup when the main process exits, so basically
going back to "good ol days" in not cleaning up behind the job.

Flo
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Florian Lohoff                                                     [email protected]
   Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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