Re: Bug#1080153: meta-gnome3: make a decision between cheese and gnome-snapshot for new trixie installations

Phil Wyett <[email protected]> Sat, 05 Oct 2024 00:48:31 +0100

Newsgroups	gmane.linux.debian.devel.gtk-gnome
Message-ID	<[email protected]>

On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 19:09 -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM Simon McVittie <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As discussed on
> > https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/meta-gnome3/-/merge_requests/12
> > we need to decide whether a new installation of trixie with GNOME should
> > default to installing cheese (same as bookworm) or gnome-snapshot.
> > Opening this bug as a reminder.
> 
> I think we should go ahead with putting gnome-snapshot (a webcam app)
> in gnome-core's Depends. Like with gnome-text-editor for Debian 12, we
> can't have an alternate dependency that was previously already
> installed and have upgraders get the new app installed without some
> kind of upgrade script which Debian does not currently have.
> 
> Until last week in Testing when Pipewire was fixed (version 1.2.4),
> the Snapshot app wasn't usable on many computers. The Snapshot is much
> more complex technically than an app like Cheese as it uses many new
> technologies: Rust+libadwaita, Glycin, Pipewire, Camera portal, etc.
> But we think it works well now.
> 
> From a user perspective, compared to Cheese, it is a very simple app.
> It does not offer any of the fun effects and filters Cheese has.
> 
> I don't know how often a simple webcam app like this would be used. I
> imagine many people would just use webcam webapps. There is at least
> some need for people to want to test whether their webcam is working
> without needing to use a website in a web browser. I believe OEMs like
> to be able to demonstrate how well their webcam works also.
> 
> I believe for gnome-core, we need to ship what GNOME considers to be
> GNOME Core, unless we have a strong reason to diverge and I don't
> think we have a reason to not include gnome-snapshot any more.
> 
> Thank you,
> Jeremy Bícha
> 

Hi Jeremy and all,

+1 for moving to gnome-snapshot.

As Jeremy mentioned, I also find that these particular apps are not that
often used and certainly not heard from anyone who classes these webcam apps
as being important. This being the case, I think we should bite the bullet,
make the change and be that little bit closer to what is seen by the upstream
project as GNOME Core.

Regards

Phil

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