Re: MBF: Removal of GTK2 from forky

"Jonathan Dowland" <[email protected]> Fri, 09 Jan 2026 09:13:57 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.gtk-gnome,gmane.linux.debian.devel.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Jeremy,

On Thu Jan 8, 2026 at 8:38 PM GMT, Jeremy B=C3=ADcha wrote:
> GTK 2 has been unmaintained upstream since the end of 2020 when GTK 4
> was released. There isn't anyone to maintain GTK 2. The Debian GNOME
> team is trying to remove GTK 2 from Debian, not orphan it.

Thanks for clarifying your intent!

As volunteers, we should only work on what we want to, so the GNOME team=20
should absolutely not be compelled to maintain GTK2 if you no longer=20
want to.

I respect your opinion that Debian would be better off without GTK2 in=20
the archive. However, I don't agree with it. The two pillars of my=20
position are: removing this forces the removal of useful dependent=20
programs in the archive which have active users; it also makes it more=20
difficult for users to run dependent programs *outside* the archive,=20
including software of historical significance. IMHO this fall foul of SC=20
=C2=A74.

The correct mechanism for the GNOME team to stop maintaining GTK2 is to=20
orphan it, and to do so sooner rather than later, to give any others who=20
may wish to pick it up the most time to do so and work through=20
transitional problems, well ahead of the next release freeze.

This is perhaps the best place to start asking: who (else) is interested=20
in picking up GTK2?


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