Re: Contacting Java packaging team

Le 17/06/2024 à 08:16, Andreas Tille a écrit :

> The problems Pierre described with upgrading Gradle might be some
> indication that some more skilled packagers could help.

We would need a core Gradle and/or Kotlin developer to tackle this 
issue, but I don't think they are interested in spending days or weeks 
figuring out an upgrade path for old versions of Gradle.


> I intentionally linked to some response I once received[2] which says:
> "java-team have pipelines disabled by default".  I consider this a
> really unfortunate blocker to simply switch on Salsa CI.  If there is no
> policy to use Salsa CI or not please make sure developers will not need
> extra hurdles to switch it on.

If I remember well, the repository creation script [1] for the Java team 
disables the CI feature, because at the time it was written the Salsa CI 
wasn't implemented yet.


> Regarding the "IRC spam":  IMHO this is not a Salsa CI feature but
> rather the KGB bot you can switch of.

I'd like KGB to report commits but not CI builds, if that's possible.


> For me as someone who barely
> speaks any Java and just crossing fingers that the upstream build system
> works flawlessly it helps a lot to have some build log available online
> very easily which I can link to in some mail to the Debian Java list to
> get further help.  This might be true for potential newcomers as well.

That's indeed a convenience, but with an energy cost and a CO2 impact on 
the planet.

Emmanuel Bourg

[1] 
https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/pkg-java-scripts/-/blob/master/setup-salsa-repository