Re: Request to use DFSG as a model document

Hi,

IMO the person you have to ask is the Debian Project Lead.

THe recent is:

Andreas Tille <[email protected]>

Hope I could help you.

Kind regards
Michael


Am 24.03.25 um 21:04 schrieb Marcia Wilbur:
> Hi. So I had Contacted Bruce Perens because he was the original author of
> both of those and as per his guidance, he said, as long as I’m just using
> the original, I should cite it, which that’s fine.
> 
> But if I wanted to modify it as a formality, I should contact the Debian
> folks.
> 
> The original document (Dfsg) announce states that it can be used as a model
> for other distros and projects, and that “We will gladly grant permission
> for any such us” Let me get you the full text Of that, announce below.
> 
> *We hope that other software projects,
> including other Linux distributions, will use this document as a model.
> We will gladly grant permission for any such use.*
> 
> So I asked Bruce…
> Does this statement mean we can simply use the document as a model with no
> further due diligence or explicit permissions?
> 
> Since Bruce was the original Author, I reached out to him first, but he
> said he has been outside Debian project a while:
> 
> Bruce Perens:
> If you're not going to modify it, I think you could just cite the document
> at its current location. If you are, just for formality sake you should ask
> the Debian folks. I've not been on that project for some years - just too
> many things to do.
> 
> Considering the text in the announcement, it seems that the original
> document is an open one, but as a formality, I am letting you know I want
> to modify just the name and waiting for that gladly granting of permissions
> as per the original intent!
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 3:52 PM Michael Stehmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> IMO there is a derived work of the DFSG:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://opensource.org/osd__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!YBK4_x9ztccP0OAJPH1co8Ve89r4WSeMiqJjCzqxu1GTY6-xWm6egy9tx-70Ljcg2FyZrjaWSe7EdN6vx7FX_qQ$
>>
>> See:
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative*History__;Iw!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!YBK4_x9ztccP0OAJPH1co8Ve89r4WSeMiqJjCzqxu1GTY6-xWm6egy9tx-70Ljcg2FyZrjaWSe7EdN6v0Ddq6cQ$
>>
>> Disclaimer: I am not a member of the Debian Project but interested in
>> Free Software Licences.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Michael
>>
>> Am 23.03.25 um 19:31 schrieb Francesco Poli:
>>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 04:34:43 -0400 Marcia Wilbur wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi. My name is Marcia Wilbur.
>>>
>>> Hello Marcia,
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> I would like to use the Debian Free Software Guidelines document as a
>> model
>>>> for my projects as well as promote DFSG or a derivative as a model for
>>>> other projects.
>>>>
>>>> At this point in time, the only thing I would modify is the name.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I cannot speak for the Debian Project, since I have not
>>> been delegated to do so; I am just a Debian contributor (a Debian
>>> Maintainer, to be precise) who has been a regular on the debian-legal
>>> mailing list for quite a long time.
>>>
>>> That said, my own personal opinion is that what you would like to do
>>> should not be a problem, from a conceptual standpoint.
>>>
>>> The only trouble I see is that the document that includes the Debian
>>> Social Contract and the Debian Free Software Guidelines still seems to
>>> be under the non-free OPL license, as there is no evidence that it has
>>> been re-licensed (yet)...
>>> Please take a look at bug [#614497] for more detailed information about
>>> this (long) story.
>>>
>>> [#614497]: <
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bugs.debian.org/614497__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!YBK4_x9ztccP0OAJPH1co8Ve89r4WSeMiqJjCzqxu1GTY6-xWm6egy9tx-70Ljcg2FyZrjaWSe7EdN6vqCWeDEw$
>>>
>>>
>>> I admit that this looks like sad news, but... it is what it is...  :-(
>>>
>>
>>
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