Re: XLibre in Debian

Phil Wyett <[email protected]> Fri, 03 Oct 2025 03:27:06 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.linux.debian.devel.project
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On Thu, 2025-10-02 at 17:02 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> Gonidec wrote:
> > Le Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:24:48PM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit :
> > > (…) I am not accustomed to Debian categorically rejecting software
> > > that is DFSG-free from inclusion based solely on the team that
> > > develops
> it.
> > 
> > To avoid confusion: I gave *my* opinion. My opinion as a Debian
> > Developer, but still I am not Debian by myself.
> > 
> > As for why I strongly oppose the inclusion of this software into
> > Debian,
> > I won’t go into details so suffice to say that I am not willing to let
> > Debian become a Nazi bar.
> > 
> > If you’re surprised by the use of such words, I suggest looking up why
> > other distributions already rejected XLibre. I for myself do not have
> > the energy (nor the will) to spend more time on XLibre than I already
> > did writing the current e-mail.
> 
> Like I said, I know nothing about XLibre or its history.  But I think it
> is
> important to state here that I am categorically opposed to any software
> being
> excluded from Debian because of the politics of the developers (as long
> as
> those politics are not included in the software itself).
> 
> Excluding software because of the politics of the developers is both
> extremely
> dangerous and contrary to the spirit of the DFSG #5:
> 
> "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups”
> 
> Also, I am not saying that Debian should accept any software that is
> below its
> technical standards (an argument that nobody has yet made regarding
> XLibre). 
> However, based on what has been expressed so far in this thread, I would
> be
> opposed to anyone preventing *someone else* from packaging this for
> Debian if
> they so desired.  Perhaps there are further details about the developers
> that
> would change my mind, but if that is the case those details would need to
> be
> clearly explained.
> 

Hi Soren and all,

Very close to my thoughts on this subject. Let us concentrate on technical
standards and the spirit of Debian and the DFSG.

Regards

Phil

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