Re: XLibre in Debian

On 2025-10-05 02:47, The Wanderer wrote:

>> Can we stop the charade? None of this is true. The maintainer got
>> their privileges from X11 removed because they were... not a good
>> maintainer and randomly broke interfaces that existing software
>> relied upon. And even introduced security issues with some of their
>> patches. And XLibre broke compatibility with the one proprietary
>> driver that actually matters here.
> 
> I would be interested in references for this. I do not doubt that it is
> true, but the only reference I've seen thus far which might have gone
> into detail about technical inadequacies of the XLibre maintainer(s)
> goes through a Website which blocks access from the browser I use on my
> primary computer (for site-security reasons, because that browser is
> severely outdated - it's a long story, I'm working towards changing that
> but it won't be soon).

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1797
(I also had https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1760 in 
my history)

> I parse the idea as being something like "because Xorg has been
> declared unmaintained or similar upstream, it will inevitably bitrot and
> become more and more broken over time, so it will cease to be a viable
> option; in order for X to continue to be viable, it will be necessary
> for distributions to switch to a new upstream; the only current
> candidate for an alternative X upstream which has enough contributor
> interest to seem potentially viable is XLibre". Thus the "as legacy X
> implementations lose maintenance" bullet point, above.

An alternative could be https://wayback.freedesktop.org/. Also, there is 
no plan to sunset XWayland.