Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework?

On 4/27/26 2:02 AM, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> * Aryan Karamtoth <[email protected]> [260425 11:52]:
>> We could work with Framework and [..]
> 
> https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/14/framework_linux_controversy/
> 
> These people, really?
> 
> C.


(I may be very uninformed on this issue, so I apologize if I'm missing the point.)

Are we talking about Frameworks support of hyprland?  Because Debian includes at
least 16 packages from hyprland, including (apparently) the desktop environment
itself.

I don't use this DE, and know very little about it, or its associated community.
But, if Debian, as a project, has a problem with a vendor because of their stance
on a particular project, Debian should reject packaging of that project from the
archives.  Anything else is hypocritical.

Separately, you can get around this issue morally by creating a vendor-neutral
certification standard, and then apply it neutrally---i.e., does every piece of
hardware shipped by the vendor work if only Debian software is used (say, include
non-Free)?  In that case, I don't think Framework passes (specifically, I don't
think the fingerprint sensor actually works).  But, I haven't tried to get it
working in trixie.

Best,
Antonio