Re: Debian should not link to n*zis nor ship their software (Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework?

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Quoting schorpp (2026-05-15 11:02:17)
> Am 15.05.26 um 09:52 schrieb Gerardo Ballabio:
> > Matthias Geiger wrote:
> >> Well, the DFSG exits, we just don't have it mandating actions for pack=
ages (which IMO should be discussed).
> >>
> >> I'd like to point out =C2=A75 here [1].
> >=20
> > DFSG =C2=A75 concerns the *license* of the program. "No Discrimination"
> > here means that the license must not restrict any person or group from
> > using, modifying and redistributing the program. It doesn't concern
> > discriminatory views held by the *authors* of the program.
> >=20
> > About "mandating actions for packages", I understand that DFSG
> > violation bugs are RC. You aren't "forced" to do anything (see also
> > Constitution 2.1.1) but if you don't, your package won't be part of a
> > Debian stable release.
> > But this is not a case of DFSG violation.
> >=20
> > Gerardo
> >=20
>=20
> I second that.
>=20
> It's been always the same=C2=A0for decades some=C2=A0guys show up with su=
ch=20
> requests to restrict free software
>=20
> because they're unable to=C2=A0read American law English correctly and/or=
 no=20
> law basics teached=C2=A0in their edu systems.

This was mean. Your last paragraph does not add anything useful to this
discussion. You are just ranting.

> If Geiger wants=C2=A0to restrict GPL or DFSG he is=C2=A0free to create hi=
s=20
> own=C2=A0unfree software under his own restricted license.

Yes, "no discrimination" means that I am allowed to use my GPL software on a
cruise missile guidance system if I want and copyright law will not stop me
from doing so.

But "no discrimination" does not mean that I *have* to ship cruise missile
guidance software in the operating system. Or white supremacist bullshit for
that matter.

So I think we can talk about policies we'd like to have in Debian about wha=
t we
want to ship and what not. We had similar discussions in the past when it w=
as
about the fortunes package, we have these discussions when it comes to adult
content etc.

I'd welcome it if we could have more clear guidance about the content we wa=
nt
to ship in our OS. If it were up to me, I'd immediately throw bs1770gain ou=
t of
the archive. But I also think that what we ship and do not ship should not =
be
up to arbitrary maintainer opinion. I'd be nice to have a guiding document.

Do other distros have something like that already?

Thanks!

cheers, josch
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