Re: Freexian, security and Debian

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Adrian Bunk <[email protected]> wrote on 23/07/2026 at 11:01:58+0200:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 04:05:32PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott B=C3=A9cue wrote:
>> Just jumping on this bit.
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>> Adrian Bunk <[email protected]> wrote on 19/07/2026 at 18:57:21+0200:
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>> > Worse than GitLab Inc., which is a neutral player providing equal
>> > offers to everyone in the Debian ecosystem, Freexian SARL is competing
>> > directly with the businesses and employers of many other contributors
>> > (including many DDs) in our ecosystem.[3]
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>> This does neither seem true (about GitLab being neutral) nor really
>> relevant.
>
> The Debian services Frexian offers[1] are in direct competition to the
> Debian services offered by many Debian contributors or their
> employers.

And all our employers are all in competition with each other already?
This makes no sense.

> And if Debusine would become the official way for building Debian, then=20
> the SaaS offer of the company maintaining Debusine would be a unique=20
> selling point.

Debusine can be installed on premise so this is blatantly false.

> GitLab is in a different market.

This makes no sense and still is not relevant.

>> Many of us have employers that are competing with each others.
>
> Other competitors did not receive =E2=82=AC 485k taxpayer money to develop
> their product by presenting it as "aimed at modernizing Debian's
> infrastructure" so that Debian can "attract [and] mantain its
> community of highly skilled volunteers".[2]

Other competitors could have asked for funding for their project
provided it adhered to the conditions described here[1] or there[2].

I really don't know what you are trying to prove here, but you are doing
it badly, in my opinion.

To be fair, I agree with Steve, you're obviously stuck into a
finger-pointing name and shame loop against some people for whatever
reason of yours you have. This is not sane and this is not really
acceptable either.

I'll stick to the sane aspect though, I'd recommend that you take a step
back, breath a good bit of fresh air.

Bests,

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PEB

[1] https://interoperable-europe.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observ=
atory-osor/document/funding-open-source-case-study-sovereign-tech-fund
[2] https://www.sovereign.tech/programs/fund

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