Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene

Sebastiaan Couwenberg <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.project
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 8/15/26 1:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Tobias Frost (2026-08-15 10:25:18)
>> One final clarification: this mail is not intended to reopen the
>> broader discussion about the usefulness or future of the Uploaders
>> field. That is a separate discussion, and this is not the place to
>> have it.
> 
> Quoting Sebastiaan Couwenberg (2026-08-15 12:41:27)
>> On 8/15/26 12:10 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> Quoting Sebastiaan Couwenberg (2026-08-15 11:07:03)
>>>> On 8/15/26 10:25 AM, Tobias Frost wrote:
>>>>> But this is not just an MIA team task. The Uploaders field is part of
>>>>> the package's maintenance metadata, and keeping it reasonably accurate
>>>>> should be part of maintaining the package. If you notice that someone
>>>>> listed there no longer appears to be actively maintaining the package,
>>>>> please consider cleaning it up.
>>>>
>>>> This will result in no-human-maintainers lintian issues, because many packages are on life support with team uploads where no person wants to commit to the package by adding themselves to Uploaders.
>>>>
>>>> I guess we should just acknowledge that fact in the override comment.
>>>
>>> If noone in a team wants to commit to a package by adding themselves as
>>> in the Uploaders field, it seems that package is team-*un*maintained
>>> and that fact should be acknowledged by moving the package to QA team.
>>
>> The package is still team maintained, new upstream releases get packaged and bugs get triaged, but only the minimum amount of effort is put in those packages.
>>
>> Orphaning the package will make it fall of radar and not even receive that little work.
>>
>> I'd prefer for policy 5.6.3 to drop the "at least one human" requirement, to allow for team maintained packages no person takes responsibility for.
> 
> It seems you want to discuss changing the rules - that's confusing.

You're reading too much in to what's written.

I'm just raising an issue that's a consequence of the requested action of us developers.

The lintian issue is the reason I don't trim Uploaders of the GIS packages I help maintain.

I guess we can just not do what the MIA teams asks of us, that requires the least amount of work.

Kind Regards,

Bas
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