Re: coordination between lintian/piuparts/adequate

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:38:57PM +0100, Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas wrote:
> > Probably adequate is the logical place for this test, but adequate
> > doesn't build/run on ports architectures since it moved to golang,
> > so piuparts should probably keep its tests on those arches until
> > adequate moves to a more portable language or golang gets ported.
> that's because unsupported ports architectures have not caught up to go 1.21,
> which was released ~1.5 year ago. I'd claim that that says more about the
> viability of those ports, than the suitability of go for Debian tooling. if you
> feel strongly otherwise, I'd be happy to continue this discussion with a wider
> audience at <[email protected]> rather than reply here

I dont feel strongly about this, but I'd like to point out that I
disagree. IMO it was wrong to rewrite adequate (as any central QA tool
for Debian) in a language which is not available *everywhere*.

> piuparts relies on humans to file bugs. autopkgtest on the other hand blocks
> package migration to testing (that is, when one does not run autopkgtst before
> upload). it's nice that some humans (including yourself) file bugs, but that
> doesn't seem viable long-term. 

>90% of the piuparts bugs in the last 2 decades have been filed by 3 people,
this might not seem viable long-term to you, but in practice it has been
proven to be viable long-term.

also: piuparts failures block migrations without anyone having to file bugs,
just like autopkgtest. (oh, and for autopkgtests related bugs, there are also
very few humans filing them.)


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