Re: #923880 - "iptables -m tos --tos mask value is wrong"

Hi Job,

Thanks for reaching out.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 10:57:06AM +0000, Job Snijders wrote:
> Today I stumbled across the "temporary workaround" patch that is
> https://sources.debian.org/src/openssh/1:8.4p1-5+deb11u3/debian/patches/revert-ipqos-defaults.patch/
> caused by this report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923880
> 
> Reading the associated threads it seems that VMware fixed their
> products by now, but I wasn't able to find pointers to threads that
> describe the problem in iptables and the solution (or if any solution
> was created?).
> 
> Do you know whether the revert-ipqos-defaults.patch really still is
> needed?

As the submitter of the issue, I am in favour of dropping the patch at 
the beginning of the forky cycle. Rationale as follows.
 * If I remember correctly, the change was introduced relatively close 
   to a freeze and it posed difficulties to adapt iptables. Hence, I 
   proposed *temporarily* reverting the change in ssh to give users
   more time to adapt and prepare.
 * It is now clear that iptables will not be fixed. The suggested 
   workaround is to use numeric values. This workaround is deployable on 
   old iptables versions.
 * We're transitioning from iptables to nftables, so compatibility with 
   iptables becomes less of a concern. It still is, but the weight of 
   the argument decays.
 * Debian is now deviating from the rest of the world and such deviation 
   is always a downside.

The change likely warrants a NEWS entry.

> But it seems Colin Watson doesn't want to remove the
> revert-ipqos-defaults patch without users or developers confirming the
> issue is resolved.

This characterization seems unlikely to me. I'd like to hear what Colin 
says himself.

Helmut