Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)

Joerg Jaspert writes ("Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)"):
> > We are waiting because the DPL won't authorise an "NMU", despite
> >  - the team involved being well-known as dysfunctional for many years
> >  - the team's explicit position being that they don't want tag2upload
> >  - the team having failed to deliver on its promises
> >  - a complete lack of communication from that team
> 
> The second point is a lie, and you know it. [...]

Since I have been accused of lying, I guess I need to provide
receipts.

ftpmaster's firm response in 2019, explained at length, was no. [0]
frpmaster's first response in 2024 was no [1], and only a 1000-message
thread and a formal GR proposal got us to the compromise agreement. [2]
frpmaster's first response to our request for key installation, was
an obnoxious mail [3] followed by "no" [4] (private mails, sorry).

Each time, the starting point is "no" and only intense negotiation has
(sometimes) produced anything other than "no".

(By tag2upload we mean the system that Sean and I designed, not some
in our view far inferior counterproposal from ftpmaster; see [5])

Ian.

[0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/08/msg00521.html
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/06/msg00008.html
[2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/07/msg00024.html
[3] <[email protected]>
[4] <[email protected]>
[5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/06/msg00204.html