Re: Why Debian is dying

Sean Whitton <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Apr 2025 09:44:31 +0800

Newsgroups	gmane.linux.debian.devel.vote
Message-ID	<[email protected]>

Hello,

On Tue 08 Apr 2025 at 01:09pm GMT, Holger Levsen wrote:

> The Technical Committee may:
>
>     Decide on any matter of technical policy.
>     Decide any technical matter where Developers' jurisdictions overlap.
>     Make a decision when asked to do so.
>     Overrule a Developer (requires a 3:1 majority).
>     Offer advice.
>
>
> They all seem to be way more collaborative to me, than - once again -
> immediatly escalating this to -vote and threatening a GR.

This is not fair.

Firstly, the TC cannot overrule delegates.  This is well established.
During my recently-completed TC term, there was no doubt within the
committee that we could only deal with disputes among package
maintainers/contributors, not anything involving DPL delegates.

Secondly, "immediately escalating this to -vote" is not true, because we
tried to resolve it in private first, extensively.  And we tried to get
the DPL to help.

But the DPL didn't respond to a single message in the long private
thread, despite being CCed on every message.

> *Also*, because some of us would like to focus on getting this trixie
> release out.

I'm sorry that I didn't think of this.  It's always seemed to me that
political stuff can run in parallel to freezes (for example, we have
been running the DPL election just fine), but I see now that others
disagree.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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